I feel like utopian thinking is either premised on "anything is better than this" or "the system makes us bad"
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neither of which creates room for the possibility that humans "naturally" generate exploitation as much as cooperation.
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Which I guess is where I will always be a "progressive" rather than a "utopian." There are better and worse ways or organize human beings.
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more: there are more and less TIMELY ways to organize humans. Which is actually a Marxist conception. Bourgeois capitalism was timely.
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it is now "late," the age for the proletariat to rule should have already come (in the Marxist assumption).
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I am not at all opposed to the notion that (some) socialized orders may be superior to (some) capitalist orders.
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In fact, formulated like that, any reasonable person who is not an absolute ideologue ought to be able to agree with that.
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(of course, said reasonable person should also be able to agree to the reverse.)
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And I incline towards the idea that socialism or at minimum social democracy is at present TIMELY. That should be obvious to everyone..
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But the question is: what socialist orders are superior to existing capitalist orders? not those that fail to account for depravity, I think
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Which, again, is why I am still inclined towards the premise that it is hegemony itself, in all its forms, that is our enemy.
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not merely because I believe that premise creates the possibility of wide buy-in (I don't want to ally with capitalists! says the socialist
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well, I don't want to ally with racists so here we are), but because I think an explicitly counter-hegemonic state accounts for human nature
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That seems to me, more the timely advance of democracy than the dictatorship of the proletariat as such.
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but whatever I should shut up and study socialism. And liberalism. And capitalism. And then I can have opinions, after I read.
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