OK so north korea. It seems to me that the crux of the issue here is that NK thinks nukes are necessary to avoid US-led regime change.
for meaningful rollback of the nuclear program, with "snapback" procedures a la Iran nuke deal.
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In particular, I think getting NK citizens access to non-state media would be an important goal...
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in the hopes that they create an internal push for liberalizing reforms, which is the only thing that will really normalize NK.
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