I dunno I have socialist friends who are also putting in the concrete work to create change AND move towards full socialism.
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Replying to @csilverandgold @textualdeviance and
Bullshit. They are NOT moving towards "Socialism" they are moving toward expanded social programs. VERY EFFING DIFFERENT.
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Replying to @Analogbear @textualdeviance and
I mean... insofar as the DSA (or Berniecrats) build "class consciousness" socialists would tell you they're moving towards socialism.
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Replying to @csilverandgold @textualdeviance and
They are not killing anyone. They are not seizing the means of production. They are FAKE, WEAK, and useless...
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Replying to @Analogbear @textualdeviance and
Socialism... doesn't require killing anyone? Marx in his later years did not consider violence necessary to transition to communism.
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Replying to @csilverandgold @textualdeviance and
NEVER listen to an old band's NEW stuff...Always fails to satisfy...
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Replying to @Analogbear @textualdeviance and
lol well, he said it and I think Marx knows what socialism is better than either of us. Building class consciousness counts.
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Replying to @csilverandgold @Analogbear and
Can you give me an example of a purely socialist country that didn't slip into poverty, oligarchy or dictatorship?
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Replying to @textualdeviance @Analogbear and
nope. I'm not saying that communism is practicable at present. I actually don't think it is.
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Replying to @csilverandgold @textualdeviance and
I think, like democracy at vast geographic scales, technological progress could make democratic socialism possible where it once wasn't.
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I'm just saying, give the socialists credit---according to socialist metrics, they are building socialism, even if they're not seizing MoP.
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