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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted

      It is a jarring shift from shortages but it is reality. Just Pfizer & Moderna are on track for 600 million doses by July. J&J supply is 10+ million per month. We have 100 million Novavax in the pipeline. US only has 260 million vaccine eligible people. https://twitter.com/Valentine721/status/1372184003063726087 …

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Mar 2021

      Remember how upset we got when we hard a few doses here and there were being wasted? US has at least thirty, likely about sixty million, *already manufactured* doses of vaccines that cannot be used here (no approval) and will NOT be approved in time. We can send them out today.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Mar 2021

      Most likely holdup here is the political perception. The administration doesn't want to be seen as sending vaccines while shortages are working their way through. But we can do the math here—these won't be approved in time—and give political support to the smart and humane path.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Josh Wingrove

      Yes, of course. Soon enough we will be discussing giving away more of our excess because our pipeline truly exceeds our population likely by hundreds of millions. But, we can do that next month. These are doses needed NOW that we cannot and will not use.https://twitter.com/josh_wingrove/status/1372187510248509452 …

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      Josh WingroveVerified account @josh_wingrove
      NEWS: Mexico and Canada are at the top of the list for U.S. vaccine exports, whenever they begin, per a US official. Biden said yesterday he's already speaking with countries about this. Mexico asked this week for AstraZeneca shots. Story on @TheTerminal.
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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Mar 2021

      Look, the US will release these vaccines we clearly won't use—eventually. They won't be approved in time here. The only question is timing. My point is we should do it NOW, especially with more transmissible variants spreading. A vaccine today is worth more than one in a month.

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Mar 2021

      To folks saying AZ is an inferior vaccine so we shouldn't give it away even if we can't use it. "Not approved yet because US trial not concluded" doesn't mean inferior. Novavax looks spectacular (from trials elsewhere) but also not approved here because trial not concluded...+

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Mar 2021

      ... but it's definitely true that AZ rollout has been a spectacular mess, but that's separate. (I will probably rant on that in my newsletter). So far 11 million doses in UK, ~6 in Europe, 500,000 in Canada have been administered... It's not a vaccine just for poor/brown folk.

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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Mar 2021

      We can figure out the politics of where AZ should go. There are countries with large outbreaks (especially of that terrible B117 variant) in Europe, for example. Other countries elsewhere may ask for them, solving the "optics" issue. What's on us is to demand they get used, now.

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted 4030Lisa

      Because it's not endangering anyone. It's approved in the UK, Canada, EU and through the WHO coalition, in 140+ countries and has been given to 17 million people in UK and EU. The US FDA requires the trials it requires, and that's a different discussion.https://twitter.com/4030lisa/status/1372230955973410816 …

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      Why would you choose to endanger others with a vaccine that has not gone through even the minimal rigors of safety testing we currently have? If we cannot release it here because of safety reasons, it should not be sent to jeopardize others for safety reasons elsewhere,either.
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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Chad Crichton

      I don't have a strong opinion on where they go—there are many choices, but yes, whatever is going on in EU is an issue. However, as you can see below, Canada—facing a potential B117 surge in many locations—has approved them, would use them, and needs them.https://twitter.com/chadcrichton/status/1372239202293780480 …

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      Chad Crichton @chadcrichton
      Replying to @chadcrichton @jaimedash @zeynep
      People I know in their 40s in the U.S. have already gotten a shot, Alaska's letting 16 year olds sign up, and here in Ontario my Mom (73) can't even sign up for an appointment yet. Eventually Canadians are going to get mad at our doses coming from Europe & India but not Michigan.
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      Wanting better‏ @cschneider8224 17 Mar 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      Unfortunately, the optics on this are very bad, now that the blood clotting concerns have been flagged in Europe. It doesn't really matter if there is a real connection or not, sending any vaccines to poor countries that are under scrutiny in Europe could seed conspiracies.

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        1. Monica 🐊‏ @coccodrillo21 17 Mar 2021
          Replying to @cschneider8224 @zeynep

          I agree, If they stopped administering Oxford-AstraZeneca in most of the countries in Europe, the vaccine should not be used on anybody else, until there is a proper investigation.

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        2. Chad Crichton‏ @chadcrichton 17 Mar 2021
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          I'd rather see poorer countries get your excess doses first but if those optics are really, truly a deal-breaker for you I believe that Canada and the UK (not traditionally considered "poor" nations) will take every single vial you can deliver, as fast as you can deliver them.

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        3. Wanting better‏ @cschneider8224 17 Mar 2021
          Replying to @chadcrichton

          I should have been clearer. I don't think we should ever have sat on the vaccines in the first place. Now that this is the situation, I still think we should give them away but be careful in how we do it b/c we are stuck in a bad position that regrettably could've been avoided.

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        1. Eric Carroll‏ @Eric_Carroll 22 Mar 2021
          Replying to @cschneider8224 @zeynep

          Great we will take them happily in Canada.

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