one thing i think about often is that most games one plays over long periods of time have some sort of skinner box, a power or completionism grind. i definitely don't like relying on those but like worlds that one has long term relationships with. so: what are other models?
Skill - Counterstrike comes to mind as a game where the grind really doesn't matter, you can just play the base game for an infinite period of time and get better and better.
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Long term strategic planning. Something like Civilization or Crusader Kings. They have a knowable or conceivable set of paths for players to set up and execute strategies based on intrinsic challenges.
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Le chargement semble prendre du temps.
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