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    1. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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      56. Datomic is far and away the best graph database available today. Has Java and Clojure APIs, non jvm languages can use rest apis. If you're a startup, worth being in Clojure though.

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    2. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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      Conor White-Sullivan 🧢 je proslijedio/a tweet korisnika/cezhaphod beeblebrox

      57. Listen, I'm not saying he didn't have massive contributions, esp on the math side. Just know too many AI bros (who I still love) who've said things like "We just need 50 Von Neumanns to build an AGI god and we're set" No. And he's not all that.https://twitter.com/zhaphod/status/1206327029601165312?s=19 …

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      zhaphod beeblebrox @zhaphod
      Odgovor korisnicima @Conaw @vgr
      Yes von Neumann is not the genius everyone made him out to be. Righto. Those other laureates who were in awe of him were also perpetuating a marketing myth.
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    3. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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      58. The most important idea in Datomic is that there is no reason to overwrite data just because it changes. It is more than a graph database, it is a graph database with a notion of time and history built in. What was Joe's address as of Dec 2017?

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    4. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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      59. The main limitation of the EAV tuples (popular in Semantic Web land) is that you can't easily describe the relationships. You get the FACTS, but it is a bit tricky to add information to those facts like "where did this info come from", or make statements like If A then B

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    5. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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      60. To model human thought in a computable way you need to solve the problem in 59, you move closer to this goal if you give each "fact" or "edge" in the graph a unique identifier. Long history of this in Associative Databases Example in @RoamResearch https://roamresearch.com/#/v8/help/page/WhSDOjZ0d …pic.twitter.com/cBYtMW0npe

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    6. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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      Conor White-Sullivan 🧢 je proslijedio/a tweet korisnika/ceChris Granger

      My shit posting on Eve has evoked the ire of @ibdknox, whose work I do greatly respect. So will offer my more nuanced opinions on Eve and programming languages related to tools for thought, esp related to @RoamResearch and see if that gets me the last 40https://twitter.com/ibdknox/status/1206244381252034560?s=19 …

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      Chris Granger @ibdknox
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      It didn’t go off the rails because we showed an example of building a game. Games are how the vast majority of programmers came to be. There’s a lot of absolutism in this thread that’s backed by neither reality nor experience.
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    7. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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      61. Designing a programming language - a medium for people to express their thought in a machine computable way is insanely hard. Perhaps even harder to get the time and funding to do that level of deep work. Exponentially harder to do on VC timescales.

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    8. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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      62. The fact that Chris and team were able to get venture funding AT ALL is an insane testament to the them, and quality of prior work /vision. The fact that they got funding from some of the top investors in silicon valley put the project in historic category. Lot 2 liveup 2

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    9. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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      63. Light-table (from Eve team) promised a smalltalk like IDE for devs using clojure or js Easy access to docs, organize workspace by function not file, see values pass through Huge potential for intelligence augmentation! Easy switch for a userbase https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H58-n7uldoU …pic.twitter.com/Lvta7NqJYD

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    10. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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      64. Alpha sheets (later project, diff team) let you use R & Python code in a collaborative excel like spreadsheet. Was like Light Table but from another direction. Adds programming to Excel, versus adding better reactive env to programming https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hddcNvU9UVI …pic.twitter.com/fM5gw4H6ws

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      Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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      65. Light table had a very Bret Victor type feel make it easier to explore what you could do make it easier to get a handle on what is going on in the program in real time give yourself a bunch of contextual information and focus your attention only on what matters

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        2. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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          66. That project (Light Table) thus offered huge potential for "intelligence augmentation" Allow people to solve problems that they otherwise wouldn't be capable of solving Invent things they otherwise wouldn't have been capable of inventing For beginners or experts alike!

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        3. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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          67. With both AlphaSheets and Light Table, you started with a tool and paradigm people were familiar with, and you added in either more programming power or a more powerful environment. Both gave the users a clear path from where they were to a better world.

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        4. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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          68. Risk with both of those is incrementalism. If you think that both excel and programming lead toward a dead end, perhaps you have to rethink things from first principles and go back to go forward. Seemed like Chris's view https://www.chris-granger.com/2014/03/27/toward-a-better-programming/ … I don't *exactly* agreepic.twitter.com/nM5Pl9e01W

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        5. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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          69. My take is you need co-evolution of tools and culture. Tools shape us, then we shape our tools. I believe in bootstrapping - in the Doug Engelbart sense. Programming languages are as much about the community as about the underlying technology.pic.twitter.com/ahKcJIlvsT

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        6. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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          70. After Eve raised VC, appeared to me to take a hard reset approach to try to make programming level capability available to complete beginners Inventing new UIs, new language, and new database - based on Dedalus Incredible engineering lift that I would def not be capable of

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        7. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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          71. When I say they went off the rails, really means they took a strategy that I didn't agree was a good one / was aesthetically opposed to. But they weren't on my track I was living in India at the time, lurking on their list serv, building prototypes of @RoamResearch

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        8. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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          72. The prototypes of Eve I found most compelling where the ones that were more like a semantic Tiddlywiki with a natural language query engine. I liked the ideal of Excel power applied to notes Building full apps/games felt way out of scope to start https://tiddlywiki.com/ 

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        9. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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          73. To be fair, I think I share a lot of @ibdknox's long term vision. The big point of departure is that I don't think most "non-programmers" enter the world building games. I'd rather help them build explorable/interactive models of the world.

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        10. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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          74. On this point, there is another caveat I'll add to my OO shitposting in points 3 & 4. I still hate Ruby (my first language) for web-dev, but Modelica is great example of how the principles make a ton of sense for modeling systems.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHbKb7FNzjI …

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        11. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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          75. Similarly -- I think there are a ton of great ideas in Analytica for building quantitative models of systems Problem there is the tool has like a $1,000 license and only works on Windows. Mostly just used in places like the Defense Department. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analytica_(software) …pic.twitter.com/HucifuwQ87

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        12. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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          76. You don't actually know a language until you've built something substantial with it. Substantial is relative to what you've built before. Often in new languages we start by trying to follow paradigm we're used to. Anyone saying I don't know my shit is probably correct.

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        13. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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          77. Disclosures: I've built web apps with users (at least two!) in - Ruby - Javascript - Javascript during a Haskell inspired phase where I did everything with Ramda.js and all my shit was curried and point free - Clojurescript Ramda is super fun imo https://ramdajs.com/ 

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        14. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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          78. You should not trust my opinion on Python. The only reason I learned it at all was to write a few scripts on an open source Python IDE called Leo, which had cool way of organizing knowledge in a graph, again similar to @RoamResearchhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu6J-J0qFi0 …

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        15. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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          79. I have zero personal experience writing Erlang However, I CAN tell you that - The What's App team built a $1B company with 11 engineers using it. - Joe Armstrong (a co-author) has some really incredible talks. He even mentions Xanadu in this onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I_jE0l7sYQ …

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        16. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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          80. The Elm language has had a massive impact on the front-end web There is now so so much information about Redux on the web I can't find it, but original writeup from Dan Abramov on his inspirations for the architecture was a treasure trove, and he credited Elm for main ideas

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        17. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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          Conor White-Sullivan 🧢 je proslijedio/a tweet korisnika/ceConor White-Sullivan 🧢

          81. Programmers have accentshttps://twitter.com/Conaw/status/1206414142866739202 …

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          Odgovor korisnicima @amyhoy @calhistorian i sljedećem broju korisnika: 5
          Not my experience -- I've seen a lot of people break problems down differently depending on their first programming language. Imperative, Declarative, Functional, Object Oriented, Procedural, Logical each has very diff style -- programmers have accents from native tongue
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        18. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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          Conor White-Sullivan 🧢 je proslijedio/a tweet korisnika/ceConor White-Sullivan 🧢

          82. Good Programming Languages are DEFINITELY NOT about "Thinking Like a Machine"https://twitter.com/Conaw/status/1206413740888903681 …

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          Odgovor korisnicima @amyhoy @calhistorian i sljedećem broju korisnika: 5
          None of the programming languages I mentioned teach you to think like a computer. I've written a bit of C -- where I have to think more in terms of memory management -- but again, these offer very different paradigms for modeling the world, data, and action
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        19. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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          Conor White-Sullivan 🧢 je proslijedio/a tweet korisnika/ceAndrew Fischer

          83. Ivan Sutherland's "SketchPad" is what we should have Ability to do direct manipulation to get to general area you want to go, and then ability to adjust code to normalize and get pixel perfect. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB3saviItTI …https://twitter.com/ndyfschr/status/1206415136463806467?s=20 …

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          Andrew Fischer @ndyfschr
          Odgovor korisnicima @Conaw @vgr
          CSS vs direct manipulation is an interesting topic since CSS is good at things that DM is bad at. DM works great for making one thing look exactly the way you want, but it’s hard to have a DM interface to define global rules of how all elements should appear and behave
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        20. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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          84. If a project not having recent commits on github makes you immediately think you cant use it, there is something fundamentally wrong in your language community. Code shouldn't rot.

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        21. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 15. pro 2019.
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          Conor White-Sullivan 🧢 je proslijedio/a tweet korisnika/ceRafael

          85. I haven't actually figured out how to use generative testing (test.check in Clojure, QuickCheck in haskell) But when I do... and it generates millions of test cases my functions... I know in my soul it will be truly glorioushttps://twitter.com/pentateu/status/1206459605481443328?s=19 …

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          Rafael @pentateu
          Odgovor korisnicima @Conaw @vgr
          Only trust code that is checked by code :)
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        22. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 16. pro 2019.
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          I'm so tempted to finish this out with Good Book / Bad Book opinions on learning various programming languages and be done, but I think I might pull a Venkat here and just wait till later in the week.

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        23. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 16. pro 2019.
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          Conor White-Sullivan 🧢 je proslijedio/a tweet korisnika/ceJosé Luis Ricón (Artir)

          Ok, some hot takes on programming language learning materialhttps://twitter.com/ArtirKel/status/1206492488468484102 …

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          José Luis Ricón (Artir) @ArtirKel
          Odgovor korisniku/ci @Conaw
          One more spicy take to add is that there is value in programming books that are not free. The best books for at least python, rust, Haskell (an exception is the python handbook of DD, which is offered for free) one has to pay for
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        24. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 16. pro 2019.
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          Conor White-Sullivan 🧢 je proslijedio/a tweet korisnika/ceConor White-Sullivan 🧢

          86. Yes, you can stitch together a huge amount of free online learning material to teach yourself a new language... BUT It will cost a huge amount of time and energy, and once there is a thing you KNOW you want to learn, it is often good to buy a coursehttps://twitter.com/Conaw/status/1203914479500529665 …

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          Conor White-Sullivan 🧢 @Conaw
          Some devs with pretty stacked resumes, but no Clojure experience have been asking me for some getting started resources for learning Clojurescript. At Roam we use Reagent - a thin wrapper around React This free course seems to cover basics + setup well https://www.jacekschae.com/courses/learn-reagent-free/ …
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        25. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 16. pro 2019.
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          87. If you are on the bleeding edge of a new technology, or in an emergent language community, there will likely not be any courses available to hold your hand This is the best guide on the web for teaching yourself rigorous academic subjectshttps://www.lesswrong.com/posts/37sHjeisS9uJufi4u/scholarship-how-to-do-it-efficiently …

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        26. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 16. pro 2019.
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          88. It is ok for a big chunk of your personal budget to go toward your own education -- and far far more cost and time effective to work outside of academia (DON'T GO TO GRAD SCHOOL) There were months when I was in research mode where I spent about as much on books as on food.pic.twitter.com/Oy8NJj7eNu

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        27. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 16. pro 2019.
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          89. Textbooks are awesome. O'Reilly books are amazing. The Joy of Clojure I remember as particularly good -- but I at least skimmed probably every Clojure book I could find once I really got into it. Check "The Best Textbooks on Every Subject", buy onehttps://www.lesswrong.com/posts/xg3hXCYQPJkwHyik2/the-best-textbooks-on-every-subject …

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        28. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 16. pro 2019.
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          90. The Elements of Clojure is a incredible resource even for non-Clojure devs Most important idea -- How to NAME THINGS Naming things well is one of the hardest parts of programming, huge gains for code legibility if you do well Great to have a guidehttps://leanpub.com/elementsofclojure …

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        29. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 16. pro 2019.
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          91. If you are poor -- or you are living off of your nest egg to do research and worried about your burn rate -- it is 100% OK for you to pirate textbooks, O'Reilly Books, and scholarly articles. Textbooks: http://gen.lib.rus.ec/  Journals Articles: https://sci-hub.se/ 

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        30. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 16. pro 2019.
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          92. If you are rich - pay the publishers, fund the kickstarters, chip in for the Patreons. If you run a Startup with funding or are profitably bootstrapped - everyone on your team should have an unlimited expense account for books and online courses.

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        31. Conor White-Sullivan 🧢‏ @Conaw 16. pro 2019.
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          93. Open source is about increasing the information commons -- putting out free things that give other people power and agency. There are many ways to contribute Write tutorials, record screencasts, expand the docs, open source your example projects. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html#respect3 …

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