55. Questions are not a sign of ignorance, they are a sign you are paying attention. It's more than OK to ask people to define terms or give a concrete example, and ok to stay in conversations you can barely understand. Applies to conversations in and about all languages.
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64. Alpha sheets (later project, diff team) let you use R & Python code in a collaborative excel like spreadsheet. Was like Light Table but from another direction. Adds programming to Excel, versus adding better reactive env to programming https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hddcNvU9UVI …pic.twitter.com/fM5gw4H6ws
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65. Light table had a very Bret Victor type feel make it easier to explore what you could do make it easier to get a handle on what is going on in the program in real time give yourself a bunch of contextual information and focus your attention only on what matters
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66. That project (Light Table) thus offered huge potential for "intelligence augmentation" Allow people to solve problems that they otherwise wouldn't be capable of solving Invent things they otherwise wouldn't have been capable of inventing For beginners or experts alike!
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67. With both AlphaSheets and Light Table, you started with a tool and paradigm people were familiar with, and you added in either more programming power or a more powerful environment. Both gave the users a clear path from where they were to a better world.
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68. Risk with both of those is incrementalism. If you think that both excel and programming lead toward a dead end, perhaps you have to rethink things from first principles and go back to go forward. Seemed like Chris's view https://www.chris-granger.com/2014/03/27/toward-a-better-programming/ … I don't *exactly* agreepic.twitter.com/nM5Pl9e01W
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69. My take is you need co-evolution of tools and culture. Tools shape us, then we shape our tools. I believe in bootstrapping - in the Doug Engelbart sense. Programming languages are as much about the community as about the underlying technology.pic.twitter.com/ahKcJIlvsT
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70. After Eve raised VC, appeared to me to take a hard reset approach to try to make programming level capability available to complete beginners Inventing new UIs, new language, and new database - based on Dedalus Incredible engineering lift that I would def not be capable of
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71. When I say they went off the rails, really means they took a strategy that I didn't agree was a good one / was aesthetically opposed to. But they weren't on my track I was living in India at the time, lurking on their list serv, building prototypes of
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72. The prototypes of Eve I found most compelling where the ones that were more like a semantic Tiddlywiki with a natural language query engine. I liked the ideal of Excel power applied to notes Building full apps/games felt way out of scope to start https://tiddlywiki.com/
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73. To be fair, I think I share a lot of
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74. On this point, there is another caveat I'll add to my OO shitposting in points 3 & 4. I still hate Ruby (my first language) for web-dev, but Modelica is great example of how the principles make a ton of sense for modeling systems.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHbKb7FNzjI …
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75. Similarly -- I think there are a ton of great ideas in Analytica for building quantitative models of systems Problem there is the tool has like a $1,000 license and only works on Windows. Mostly just used in places like the Defense Department. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analytica_(software) …pic.twitter.com/HucifuwQ87
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76. You don't actually know a language until you've built something substantial with it. Substantial is relative to what you've built before. Often in new languages we start by trying to follow paradigm we're used to. Anyone saying I don't know my shit is probably correct.
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77. Disclosures: I've built web apps with users (at least two!) in - Ruby - Javascript - Javascript during a Haskell inspired phase where I did everything with Ramda.js and all my shit was curried and point free - Clojurescript Ramda is super fun imo https://ramdajs.com/
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78. You should not trust my opinion on Python. The only reason I learned it at all was to write a few scripts on an open source Python IDE called Leo, which had cool way of organizing knowledge in a graph, again similar to
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79. I have zero personal experience writing Erlang However, I CAN tell you that - The What's App team built a $1B company with 11 engineers using it. - Joe Armstrong (a co-author) has some really incredible talks. He even mentions Xanadu in this onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I_jE0l7sYQ …
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80. The Elm language has had a massive impact on the front-end web There is now so so much information about Redux on the web I can't find it, but original writeup from Dan Abramov on his inspirations for the architecture was a treasure trove, and he credited Elm for main ideas
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82. Good Programming Languages are DEFINITELY NOT about "Thinking Like a Machine"https://twitter.com/Conaw/status/1206413740888903681 …
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83. Ivan Sutherland's "SketchPad" is what we should have Ability to do direct manipulation to get to general area you want to go, and then ability to adjust code to normalize and get pixel perfect. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB3saviItTI …https://twitter.com/ndyfschr/status/1206415136463806467?s=20 …
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84. If a project not having recent commits on github makes you immediately think you cant use it, there is something fundamentally wrong in your language community. Code shouldn't rot.
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85. I haven't actually figured out how to use generative testing (test.check in Clojure, QuickCheck in haskell) But when I do... and it generates millions of test cases my functions... I know in my soul it will be truly glorioushttps://twitter.com/pentateu/status/1206459605481443328?s=19 …
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I'm so tempted to finish this out with Good Book / Bad Book opinions on learning various programming languages and be done, but I think I might pull a Venkat here and just wait till later in the week.
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Ok, some hot takes on programming language learning materialhttps://twitter.com/ArtirKel/status/1206492488468484102 …
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86. Yes, you can stitch together a huge amount of free online learning material to teach yourself a new language... BUT It will cost a huge amount of time and energy, and once there is a thing you KNOW you want to learn, it is often good to buy a coursehttps://twitter.com/Conaw/status/1203914479500529665 …
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87. If you are on the bleeding edge of a new technology, or in an emergent language community, there will likely not be any courses available to hold your hand This is the best guide on the web for teaching yourself rigorous academic subjectshttps://www.lesswrong.com/posts/37sHjeisS9uJufi4u/scholarship-how-to-do-it-efficiently …
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88. It is ok for a big chunk of your personal budget to go toward your own education -- and far far more cost and time effective to work outside of academia (DON'T GO TO GRAD SCHOOL) There were months when I was in research mode where I spent about as much on books as on food.pic.twitter.com/Oy8NJj7eNu
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89. Textbooks are awesome. O'Reilly books are amazing. The Joy of Clojure I remember as particularly good -- but I at least skimmed probably every Clojure book I could find once I really got into it. Check "The Best Textbooks on Every Subject", buy onehttps://www.lesswrong.com/posts/xg3hXCYQPJkwHyik2/the-best-textbooks-on-every-subject …
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90. The Elements of Clojure is a incredible resource even for non-Clojure devs Most important idea -- How to NAME THINGS Naming things well is one of the hardest parts of programming, huge gains for code legibility if you do well Great to have a guidehttps://leanpub.com/elementsofclojure …
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91. If you are poor -- or you are living off of your nest egg to do research and worried about your burn rate -- it is 100% OK for you to pirate textbooks, O'Reilly Books, and scholarly articles. Textbooks: http://gen.lib.rus.ec/ Journals Articles: https://sci-hub.se/
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