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    comex‏ @comex Oct 14

    Interesting: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/large-majorities-dislike-political-correctness/572581/ … “With the exception of the small tribe of devoted conservatives, progressive activists are the most racially homogeneous group in the country.”

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      2. 𝖆𝖉𝖗𝖎𝖊𝖓𝖓𝖊‏ @adrienneleigh Oct 14
        Replying to @comex

        I think they're defining "progressive" in the pretty bizarre way to get that result, fwiw. BLM is a progressive movement, for example.

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      3. comex‏ @comex Oct 14
        Replying to @adrienneleigh

        Good point. Looking at the original paper, “Membership in these tribes was determined by each individual’s answers to a subset of 58 core belief and behavioral questions that were asked together with the rest of the survey.” …I don’t see anywhere the exact rule is explained(!?)

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      4. comex‏ @comex Oct 14
        Replying to @comex @adrienneleigh

        But taking segments based on “core belief and behavioral questions” and then labeling them with political descriptors sounds like a dubious methodology. The arbitrary choice of names as well as the choice of segmentation itself give the authors a lot of freedom to ‘tell a story’.

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      5. 𝖆𝖉𝖗𝖎𝖊𝖓𝖓𝖊‏ @adrienneleigh Oct 14
        Replying to @comex

        Yup. Some tells from the first page of the actual linked whitepaper, without even reading the data: - "tribalism" is pretty exclusively used by the right-wing - their "director of research" is a PR guy and a former Republican congressional intern (https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephen-hawkins-0b42a213/ …)

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      6. comex‏ @comex Oct 14
        Replying to @adrienneleigh

        makes sense. though, I personally think tribalism is a major factor in politics and explains a lot of the support for Trump

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      7. 𝖆𝖉𝖗𝖎𝖊𝖓𝖓𝖊‏ @adrienneleigh Oct 14
        Replying to @comex

        Polarization is a big factor in modern American political life, but mostly leftists don't talk about "tribalism" (not least because it vastly misunderstands what tribes are, and pisses off indigenous people).

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      8. comex‏ @comex Oct 14
        Replying to @adrienneleigh

        Well, it is not just polarization I’m referring to, i.e. beliefs becoming more separated. It’s more specifically the “us vs. them” feeling, where you identify with your party like a sports team, and want them to “win” and the other team to “lose” regardless of policy specifics.

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      9. 𝖆𝖉𝖗𝖎𝖊𝖓𝖓𝖊‏ @adrienneleigh Oct 14
        Replying to @comex

        Right. And there are a lot of ways to express that but "tribalism" isn't actually a useful one. And it really has been thoroughly co-opted by right-wingers who think people not liking them is "uncivil".

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