What Cory said does not bother me. But that
does.
Maybe other times it wouldn't bother me. Right now? Yes. It does. My patience wears thin.
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Replying to @_msw_ @itunpredictable and
Why? AWS recently lost a DE because he wouldn't be a part of their anti labor activities. You can think AWS is different because it serves Jeff's interests for you to think it's different. It doesn't matter how good your boss is. Once you are expendable so it's all the management
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I am sorry if this makes you feel crunchy. I am sure your org up to, say, the SVP level is awesome. I am sure above the SVP level they are really good at looking like awesome people.
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Is the initial vesting cliff still 24 months? Is the average tenure still about 18 months? That isn't a healthy organization.
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Getting nearly two years of labor out of people and then sending them on their way with minimal share dilution is a feature not a bug. It’s a very healthy system by Amazon standards.
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Tech workforce market dynamics are interesting. As I understand it, hiring folks who have been at Amazon for a few years is a direct strategy, and competitors in the talent market often pay a high premium for it. Is that bad for the worker?
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Having AMZN on your resume is a benefit for sure, but AMZN recruiters aren't selling candidates on the job opportunities they are going to have in 2 years. They are selling them on a package of RSUs that many people who accept the position will never see.
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I don't know that data supports the situation you are describing. Of course I expect that *some* employees will, for a number of different reasons, not see their first comp review with new awards, and a full vesting of their hiring grants. Few? Some? Many? Most?
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Guys. You have to really really really ... really, and I mean *really* ... struggle to find a case that tech-workers of any category, anywhere, including Amazon are immorally under-compensated. We are all paid obscene amounts. College Hires. DEs. All of us.
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Amazon does spread initial RSU grants differently than others; it takes longer for them to vest. We're promoting and selecting for long-term thinking from the get go and other blah blah I can tell you. But go look at the stock history. Holding those RSUs has been lottery-winner.
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There is no mass-attrition around the 18 month mark. Do folks really think we could build what we have with that kind of unsustainable and toxic churn?
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