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    1. vorsprung‏ @vorsprungbike Feb 22
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      "Linux - the precursor to the cloud"......Free and open source whereas Cloud is definitely not that. Kind of an odd way to put it!

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    2. Matthew S. Wilson‏ @_msw_ Feb 22
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      Replying to @vorsprungbike @QuinnyPig @kelseyhightower

      I think that the cloud as we know it today is fairly intrinsically tied to open source. Open source is cloud native, whereas preexisting proprietary applications can become cloud naturalized over time, but only with the support of the vendor.

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    3. Matthew S. Wilson‏ @_msw_ Feb 22
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      Replying to @_msw_ @vorsprungbike and

      Other "clouds" were developed in the years around 2010 (± 2 years) that were intrinsically proprietary platforms, rather than the open systems that have an excellent impediance match with open source software.

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    4. Matthew S. Wilson‏ @_msw_ Feb 22
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      Matthew S. Wilson Retweeted Matthew S. Wilson

      Cloud, as imagined by AWS, started from an architecture of intrinsic building blocks, rather than a highly opinionated "build a cloud operating system modeled after a property OS" philosophy. That was a *much* better match for OSS.https://twitter.com/_msw_/status/1218656147512545280 …

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      Matthew S. Wilson @_msw_
      Replying to @_msw_ @chetanp @rauchg
      X : "Why do you say 'reimagined'?" Me : "Circa 2008, Windows Azure was not at all compute infrastructure like EC2, as outlined here: https://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Manuvir-Das-Introducing-Windows-Azure …. Definitely no ❤️ for Open then. Listen at 3:37 about memcached, and building on Windows."
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    5. Matthew S. Wilson‏ @_msw_ Feb 22
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      Matthew S. Wilson Retweeted Matthew S. Wilson

      As modern cloud computing followed the trail blazed by EC2, in my opinion, and as EC2 at launch only ran Linux, I agree with @kelseyhightower that it is a precursor to the modern cloud.https://twitter.com/_msw_/status/1218652636565524481 …

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      Matthew S. Wilson @_msw_
      Replying to @_msw_ @chetanp @rauchg
      Hypothesis: if Amazon had not been an early adopter of Linux and Apache httpd, EC2 would have looked much different, and we would not have modern clouds that followed the simple recipe of EC2 (including Azure reimagined), where Open Source workloads are native.
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    6. Alberto Ruiz‏ @acruiz Feb 22
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      The question is, what alternative did Amazon have? Microsoft, IBM, Sun, Novell, etc... had a headstart of several decades. There is no cloud and no post Netscape Silicon Valley without commodity software that happens to be flexible and free

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    7. Matthew S. Wilson‏ @_msw_ Feb 22
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      Replying to @acruiz @vorsprungbike and

      Amazon started its business on proprietary Unix: SPARC Solaris, PA-RISC HP-UX, etc... Sun launched a Solaris-powered cloud in 2006 as well. But Linux adoption was still growing at amazing rates back then, as proprietary Unix was already declining.

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    8. Matthew S. Wilson‏ @_msw_ Feb 22
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      Replying to @_msw_ @acruiz and

      Amazon could have continued to use proprietary Unix systems for its business, but the same very compelling factors that drove the adoption of Linux across many industries made the choice fairly obvious.

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    9. Alberto Ruiz‏ @acruiz Feb 22
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      I really doubt that we would have seen the cloud or hyperscalers as we know them or at least to grow as fast without a copylefted UNIX kernel developed by a community.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    10. Matthew S. Wilson‏ @_msw_ Feb 22
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      I agree. Although I think that a BSD-licensed system like FreeBSD could have enabled it as well. We saw Webscale-era operators running, and often contributing to, FreeBSD... (e.g., Yahoo!, Hotmail).

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      Colm MacCárthaigh‏ @colmmacc Feb 22
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      Replying to @_msw_ @acruiz and

      Was SUN's failed grid in the early 2000s while Solaris was still proprietary?

      1:24 PM - 22 Feb 2020 from Los Angeles, CA
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        1. adrian cockcroft‏ @adrianco Feb 22
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          In 2004 my team at Sun launched a rack based HPC solution using Linux nodes with a Solaris file server/controller. Optional infiniband or Ethernet with jumbo frames. They shut down the whole division including the HPC team soon after, and I left.

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        1. Matthew S. Wilson‏ @_msw_ Feb 22
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          Matthew S. Wilson Retweeted Matthew S. Wilson

          Slideware in 2006 highlighted Sun IP. OpenSolaris was still in formation...https://twitter.com/_msw_/status/1151529362384027648?s=19 …

          Matthew S. Wilson added,

          Screenshot from page 6 of linked PDF, highlighting Batch features
          Screenshot from page 17 of linked PDF, highlighting proprietary Sun IP
          Matthew S. Wilson @_msw_
          Replying to @_msw_ @adamhjk
          Remember, Sun Grid was fairly HPC / batch oriented in 2006 (you submitted jobs), and intrinsically powered by proprietary Solaris. https://www.racf.bnl.gov/Facility/TechnologyMeeting/Archive/May-01-2006/Sun_Grid_Compute_Utility_GoldenPitch_Final.pdf … pic.twitter.com/K1DbZbCJVZ
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