Super weird how I remember Trump calling Mexicans rapists right from day one of his campaign, or funding with the Khan's during the party conference season, and being exposed as a sexual assaulter in the final weeks of the campaign.
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Nobody is saying those aren’t extremely bad things, but as an issue-profile candidate, outside immigration, he’s moderate to the point of being an uncomfortable fit for the party. See also Tim Alberta’s _American Carnage_.
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Those don't seem like things only highly engaged non-swing voters knew about ... and it's not like Clinton is a radical. The alternative was more moderate. My takeaway is that many swing voters are extremely flexible but they didn't want an establishment candidate being installed
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Again, moderate for a Republican. The preferred choice of people who are going to vote R almost no matter what, but aren’t on board for the Freedom Caucus agenda or the religious right.
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Why waste time or energy trying to placate folks who are going to vote R almost no matter what? And why sacrifice justice and greater outcomes for more people in the process. Those people have to be defeated, not persuaded.
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Regardless of how we choose to respond to facts, it’s important to make sure we collect them as best we can. I don’t know what kind of “persuasion” or “placation” you mean. Trump’s not a moderate on immigration, for sure, but on pretty much the rest of the GOP issues, he is.
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Trump is fighting the ACA in the courts with no replacement plan. Even the most extreme Republican Congress ever backed down from throwing it out. He's not even close to moderate. His rotating cabinet regularly features wing-nuts and doomsday cultists.
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I think "moderate for a republic on the issues" may be a bit too simple here, like these issues are not necessarily one dimensional and also Trump is like... a chaos agent first? He was going to bomb Iran in retaliation for a drone being shot down?
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Is troop withdrawl a "moderate Republican" position?https://www.npr.org/2018/12/20/623246756/defense-secretary-mattis-to-retire-in-february-trump-says …
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It is not. In fact, it’s hard to come up with a foreign policy position that Trump isn’t to the “left” (or “up” or “projection into the 5th dimension”) of the GOP on.
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Hard to see any democrat, or Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio actually recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, or endorsing Brexit and removing a key ally from European influence, or suggesting Russia be re-admitted to the G8.
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Reagan is spinning so fast in his grave about Trump and Russia that you could power Mar A Lago with him.
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Unquestioned support of Israel is almost the defining issue of American centrism (I’m a militant centrist but also think Israel is deeply problematic).
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