Non-trained persons give this drug, and then someone wakes up and starts fighting them. Then they become the patient. Happens a lot even with trained medical personnel. Bad idea.
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No. That can happen, but in the hundreds of cases of naloxone I have seen given/given it is the very rare minority. I’d much rather surprise someone with coming back to life and have them react agitatedly than leave people to die.
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Each one of you put words in my mouth. You need to be prepared for what can happen, because your safety could be at risk if you’re not prepared. I’m trained. I give it routinely. It is dangerous for non-trained people to readily have access to this. Simple as that.
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Do you have evidence of bystander naloxone being dangerous? All of the literature I have ever seen shows substantial benefit
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You mean other than personally seeing trained EMS/police officers who have been assaulted after administering the drug? It happens to trained medical personnel. You act like it doesn’t ever happen. It can happen to untrained bystanders as well. Again, something to think about.
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So should everyone carry around a nebulizer machine, saline, IVs, and insulin when they aren’t trained to use them? If people have formal training in the use of naloxone, absolutely, give it to them. Why are you against educating people before giving them he drug?
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I literally am the person who educates people on naloxone. It’s a major part of my job. I couldn’t be more for educating everyone. Agitated reactions are exceedingly rare and lay person naloxone is absolutely not a “bad idea”
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Ummmm no. I’m sorry, but no. I am not a medical professional. And I’m not trying to save anyone who willingly injects themselves with poison.
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We aren’t expected to carry around any other life-saving medical necessity, yet we should be ready to revive heroine addicts?
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That's actually not accurate. Most opioid addicts start out as chronic pain sufferers who are prescribed legal medication. No one starts out wanting to just be an addict.
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I prefer natural selection
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News Flash: Don't use opiods and you won't have to carry naloxone
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When you have chronic pain nothing else can touch, maybe you would think differently. Don't judge other ppl.
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Or you can simply make the choice to end your addiction so you won’t need it.
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How easy! I'm surprised all addicts don't do just that! Addiction is a lifelong disease and sobriety is a lifelong battle to maintain.
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I didn’t say it was easy. Making the choice is the first step. You say it’s impossible. You’re a part of the problem.
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Where did I say it was impossible? Your opinion fits that more than mine does. You make it sound simple.
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Making a choice is very simple. Make a choice to quit. Then do it. It’s the most powerful tool a human has. There is no reason why you can’t quit. It’s not a disease. You don’t cure yourself.
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It actually is a disease. Do some research. (And also be glad you are clueless about it.)
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I’ve done plenty of research. I’ve stanbed people in the heart. I’ve seen parents so high that they couldn’t give their newborn medicine and that newborn almost died. It’s a selfish choice. Make a better choice.
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I'm not going to continue to talk to someone who has no clue what they are talking about. Have a nice day.
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