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    Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori 26 Aug 2014

    I ♥ UDP. TCP is 💩.

    5:43 PM - 26 Aug 2014
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      2. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori 26 Aug 2014

        @ToseNikolov What you are talking about isn't about the design of UDP. UDP is correctly designed. TCP is not.

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      3. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori 26 Aug 2014
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        @ToseNikolov Really it is only because IPV4's address space was too small that TCP is ever even marginally more useful (due to persistence),

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      1. Evil Jay‏ @3vi1_Jay 26 Aug 2014
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        @cmuratori Ye h, UDP is won erf l.

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      2. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori 26 Aug 2014

        @ToseNikolov It is a mismatch with the underlying hardware. "Connections" don't actually exist, only packets.

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      3. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori 26 Aug 2014
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        @ToseNikolov So basically everything written with TCP pretty much sucks, and has all these bad stalls and performance problems.

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      2. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori 26 Aug 2014

        @ToseNikolov Well, A) no, firewalls allow receiving UDP just fine, and B) again, this is because NAT/firewall design is ass.

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      3. Spooky Killer Robot‏ @jwatte 27 Aug 2014
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        @cmuratori @ToseNikolov NAT/firewalls work fine with UDP as well as TCP in the majority of cases. Else DNS and NTP wouldn't work.

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      2. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori 26 Aug 2014

        @ToseNikolov That is completely false. UDP works _much better_ than TCP on unreliable networks.

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      3. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori 26 Aug 2014
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        @ToseNikolov With UDP, the app is in control of what packets need acking, so it can be much better on unreliable networks.

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      2. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori 26 Aug 2014

        @ToseNikolov Dude, UDP has been the primary way that action games are able to actually work over the internet for like two decades.

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      3. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori 26 Aug 2014
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        @ToseNikolov There wouldn't have been multiplayer Quake if there wasn't UDP.

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