People spouting this particular line of crap should have to at least cite some data instead of their "belief" that governments need to spy.
@JackBehJohn But that's totally a counter-factual. You don't know what would have happened if we _weren't_ doing all that spying, right?
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@JackBehJohn We also don't know if the cold war would even have been a cold war if we weren't secret-CIA-war-spying-tastic all the time. -
@JackBehJohn All we do know is that our secrecy/spy-laden policies of that period almost led to nuclear war, and that's hardly a positive. - Show replies
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