But the blockchain isn't even "useful" here, because the authoritative thing is _the person at the door_. Either they let you in or they don't. That's the part everyone seems to not get.
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Not quite. These days the tickets are scanned for validity. In this case, so long as block chain continues to exist, it could be a way to cut out Ticketmaster and other centralized distributors. You don’t need two central authorities (Ticketmaster and the venue) — only the venue.
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Yes quite? Who cares if the tickets are scanned? My point is that the person who controls the door (or employs the person who controls the door) chooses what to do with the information that gets scanned. They can choose to use whatever they want.
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Blockchain does literally nothing here. It literally doesn't do anything that a server doesn't do. It guarantees you nothing. It enforces nothing. At any time, the venue can simply choose to or not to let whomever in, however they want - they are in complete control.
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But if they didn’t let you in and you had a legit ticket, could you not take them to court and win?
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Yes, but that is precisely my point: it's the law, the government, the court, etc. that is important. The underlying thing that "says" you did something is irrelevant. The court will decide, not the blockchain. It might as well be any ledger technology whatsoever.
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But if say the Supreme Court had decided that NFTs constituted valid tickets, then you’d win your own little case of entry-denied for certain, right?
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No more so than if you just had a regular contract. Courts don't give a shit what form a contract is, they care about reviewing the contract in light of applicable law. Was any party under duress? Does any part of the contract violate State or Federal law? Is it severable? etc.
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I will give you a simple example from your hypothetical. The venue rules say no one admitted unless they are wearing proper attire. They refuse to let you in despite your valid NFT ticket. You claim your attire was proper. They claim it was not.
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I buy an NFT ticket. I can’t go. I want to sell my ticket to another guy, but the venue won’t let me. (eg non transferable airline seats). In an NFT world they can’t stop me trading that ticket and they’ll be legally forced to accept the trade as it was perfectly valid.
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That would be true of any marketplace where that was the rule for the purchase. That has literally nothing to do with NFTs.
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Furthermore, any venue accepting NFTs can simply say they are non-transferable, and require, for example, the NFT to encode the name of the original purchaser. End of story.
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But in that case, if I were the artist hiring out the venue to play, wouldn’t I take my business to a competing venue with more favorable terms?
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