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    1. Hjalmar Åström‏ @HjalmarAstrom Sep 18
      Replying to @cmuratori

      No, because selling food to a conspiracy theorist doesn't harm anyone. Giving them a platform to spread dangerous misinformation does hurt people. E.g. the Bret Weinstein fan who didn't get vaccinated and later died of Covid.

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    2. androth‏ @androth4 Sep 19
      Replying to @HjalmarAstrom @cmuratori

      who gets to decide what is "misinformation?" as far as i'm concerned, *i am the only one who gets to decide that. i don't trust any other entity to make that decision on my behalf.

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    3. Hjalmar Åström‏ @HjalmarAstrom Sep 19
      Replying to @androth4 @cmuratori

      I just don't think a private company should be required by law to platform whatever misinformation someone wants to disseminate. There will always be platforms who welcome those kinds of folks anyway

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    4. androth‏ @androth4 Sep 19
      Replying to @HjalmarAstrom @cmuratori

      misinformation is a relative term. these companies will gladly platform any misinformation that aligns with the politics of the predominant corporate culture. they have rules of conduct, but they apply those rules selectively based on subjective interpretation of "misinformation"

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    5. Hjalmar Åström‏ @HjalmarAstrom Sep 19
      Replying to @androth4 @cmuratori

      I completely disagree, it's actually pretty easy to figure out what's true and what's not if you're prepared to do a few hours of reading (99.99% of Twitter are not) providing the information is available

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    6. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori Sep 19
      Replying to @HjalmarAstrom @androth4

      Unilateral policies are never enforced "fairly", so that assertion cannot be part of the discussion. If unilateral adjudication worked, countries wouldn't have a judicial branch, they'd just have an executive branch.

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    7. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori Sep 19
      Replying to @cmuratori @HjalmarAstrom @androth4

      In general, one _has to assume_ that giving a company the power to censor _necessarily assumes_ it will be unfair, because that is by definition what you have when you have no legal representation or access to an impartial judiciary.

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    8. Hjalmar Åström‏ @HjalmarAstrom Sep 19
      Replying to @cmuratori @androth4

      I was just disagreeing with the idea that misinformation is a relative term. As to your point, I think a reasonable regulation would be that companies have to publish their terms of service (Twitter doesn't for example, to my knowledge) and apply them consistently

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    9. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori Sep 19
      Replying to @HjalmarAstrom @androth4

      There is no such thing as "apply them consistently". Again, that is why we have a judicial branch. There will always be disagreements about what is a "consistent" application of a Terms of Service agreement.

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    10. Hjalmar Åström‏ @HjalmarAstrom Sep 19
      Replying to @cmuratori @androth4

      Right, but if they were legally required to do so then disagreements would be worked out by the legal system. This may be a terrible idea for reasons I've not thought of, but it's a compromise position which has occurred to me before.

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      Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori Sep 19
      Replying to @HjalmarAstrom @androth4

      You would still need to change the current regulations for that to occur, though. All Terms of Service contracts for social media companies currently include a number of "in [company]'s sole discretion", which means they would not be subject to trial court judgement.

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        2. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori Sep 19
          Replying to @cmuratori @HjalmarAstrom @androth4

          So at a minimum you would be asking for a law that said social media companies "may not apply their own discretion" or something similar, which is quite similar to saying they no longer have the power to censor, etc.?

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        3. Hjalmar Åström‏ @HjalmarAstrom Sep 19
          Replying to @cmuratori @androth4

          Not exactly, they'd still have the right to censor - whether that be porn, gore, or vaccine conspiracies or something - but they wouldn't be able to pick and choose who they apply those rules to.

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