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    1. ubi de feo‏ @ubidefeo Sep 18
      Replying to @cmuratori

      Not disagreeing, but everyone I know using its debug tools seems to be satisfied with them, at least when it comes to iOS development. Every time I have to use XCode I'm glad I don't have to make a living doing that 😬

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    2. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori Sep 18
      Replying to @ubidefeo

      Everyone you know must have very low standards for debugging tools :)

      1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
    3. ubi de feo‏ @ubidefeo Sep 18
      Replying to @cmuratori

      They're good iOS developers, might be that it suits their needs for single platform development 🤷🏻‍♂️

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    4. ubi de feo‏ @ubidefeo Sep 18
      Replying to @ubidefeo @cmuratori

      @fast_code_r_us what's your take on XCode's debugging tools? I've seen you use the profiler for demonstration purposes but how about other tools? XCode seems to be something you're using often these days

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    5. Larry the optimizer‏ @fast_code_r_us Sep 19
      Replying to @ubidefeo @cmuratori

      I haven't used Windows in years, so I can't comment on Visual Studio, but I really like Xcode+Instruments for debugging and profiling. For my work it's essential for optimizing Arm code (and occasionally x86). Linux (GDB + VSCode) isn't bad for debugging, but profiling sucks.

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    6. Larry the optimizer‏ @fast_code_r_us Sep 19
      Replying to @fast_code_r_us @ubidefeo @cmuratori

      Xcode can appear to be awful when working on iOS (provisioning, security issues), but remote debug/profile of iOS devices is rock solid. I work mostly on MacOS and it's simple to create a C/C++ project by drag/drop of src files and you're ready to profile+debug in seconds.

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    7. Larry the optimizer‏ @fast_code_r_us Sep 19
      Replying to @fast_code_r_us @ubidefeo @cmuratori

      The one benefit of GDB on Linux is that it's not overly burdensome to implement. I've used GDB on DSPs, and various CPUs and the consistency is valuable. Then again, it's in desperate need of a GUI wrapper to make it more efficient to use. VSCode does a pretty good job of that.

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    8. ubi de feo‏ @ubidefeo Sep 19
      Replying to @fast_code_r_us @cmuratori

      All interesting feedback from a pro, some of it wasted on me. As you know these days I tell people what I want and they make it happen 😬 I rarely write a line of code anymore and even then I never ascended to such heights 😂

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    9. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori Sep 19
      Replying to @ubidefeo @fast_code_r_us

      In general, GDB is fine for the same use cases as I would use WinDBG: namely, very advanced featureset where I am OK with absolutely terrible UI. The problem on Linux is what to use for a day-to-day fast, responsive, heads-up debugger.

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    10. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori Sep 19
      Replying to @cmuratori @ubidefeo @fast_code_r_us

      On Windows I use Remedy, which is fairly light on features, but is _very_ good at usability. Extremely fast, no BS, basically no install (just an EXE), etc. If I could get something like Remedy on Linux, I would be fine, but nothing even close exists as far as I have found.

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      Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori Sep 19
      Replying to @cmuratori @ubidefeo @fast_code_r_us

      And I _always_ want to see my x64 ASM, in Intel syntax, along with my source code - this is one area where a lot of Linux front-ends fall over. They either have a non-functional ASM view, or no ASM view at all.

      12:42 AM - 19 Sep 2021
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        2. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori Sep 19
          Replying to @cmuratori @ubidefeo @fast_code_r_us

          I expect stepping to be instantaneous; I expect the watch window to be always updated instantly; I expect to be able to stop and re-run the program instantly with the same breakpoints and settings; etc. Just basic stuff, to be honest, but it is shockingly hard to find on Linux.

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        3. Larry the optimizer‏ @fast_code_r_us Sep 19
          Replying to @cmuratori @ubidefeo

          I believe we've crossed into the thorny topic of market share, open vs closed source and incentives for writing great software.

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