I won't tweet about this any further but I want to live in a society where reactionary and idiotic movements are defeated politically, not punished on the individual level until every moron becomes a martyr and the backlash undoes a century of progress. But YMMV.
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Replying to @JonasKyratzes
A functional political system for deplatforming conservatives would be great, even just for the games industry, but it doesn't really exist yet. He's also American, so he's tweeting from a society that's actually right now undoing that progress with no political resistance
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Replying to @Lost_Physics
"Deplatforming" conservatives is not the goal of any democratic movement. The goal is to show a better alternative, build popular support, and democratically enact better laws and systemic changes accordingly.
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Replying to @JonasKyratzes
I see what you're saying, but I think the argument we're sort of channeling here of is the "punching/deplatforming Nazis vs out-arguing them' debate. The issues is that when dealing with bad-faith actors they're looking to exploit and cirvumvent systems, not participate in them
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Replying to @Lost_Physics @JonasKyratzes
No, the argument is that literal Nazis didn't think they were figurative Nazis (as used in your description). They thought other people were figurative Nazis, and therefore had to be deplatformed. Which they did. And then much, much worse followed.
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So if you take it as a given that someone cannot know if they are a figurative Nazi or not - which they definitely don't - entrusting any group with the power to deplatform is simply seen as too dangerous by those of us who acknowledge human ignorance and hubris.
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Replying to @cmuratori @JonasKyratzes
And you think it's impossible for someone with a destructive far-right ideology to know that they have a destructive far-right ideology, therefore we must lock away the power to deplatform (the natural first step to genocide) in fear of human ignorance and hubris.
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I'm not going to argue with you, obviously. I wouldn't know where to start. I'd encourage you to read up on literally any of the things you've talked about here. Otherwise if you want to keep engaging with political discussion nobody's going to know what you're talking about.
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I have read extensively on literally all of them.
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