Oh come on. I enjoyed the early internet, but it was a small audience of academics and techs and there was no money involved. Rules have to be different with a vast audience, organized crime and propaganda, giant corporations etc.
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The internet is not the old usenet. And stopping malevolent political organizations from using platforms for terrorism and dishonest propaganda is not depriving us of any freedom.
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as if anyone is able to discern these things without having their own bias
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You mean thousands of accounts lying about covid vaccines using identical language is some sort of subjective phenomenon that manifests only in the emotional state of the observer? Is that really your argument?
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Replying to @vyodaiken @ibcah7 and
Freedom of speech means absolutely nothing if it does not include the freedom to be wrong. Censorship is a slippery slope. The antidote to a bad argument is a better argument, not silencing, cancelling, or labeling them.
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Replying to @AshkanAliabadi @ibcah7 and
Inciting mass murder, engaging in fraud, threatening people, etc. is different from "being wrong". Radio Rwanda was not engaging in freedom of speech and what it said was not refutable by "better arguments".
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Replying to @vyodaiken @ibcah7 and
Have you ever lived in dictatorships? Because I can tell you from personal experience that this line of innocuous, well-meaning arguments are exactly the kind authoritarianism hide behind. No one thirsty for power is going to broadcast on a placard "I want to rule your life."
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Replying to @AshkanAliabadi @ibcah7 and
I have and the arguments for censorship were not innocuous at all. But here we are not talking about censorship as much as platforming. The 1st amendment does not guarantee you a TV station or use of twitter.
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Replying to @vyodaiken @AshkanAliabadi and
The critical difference is whether you punish the crime before or after a trial. I have no problem with someone going to jail for inciting mass murder if a trial is held in a properly convened court, with a jury of their peers, with a right to appeal, and full due process.
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Replying to @cmuratori @AshkanAliabadi and
Sit through a couple of hours of some US criminal court and get back to me
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I have. And hundreds of hours of Supreme Court cases. I am as well versed in the legal system as anyone you are likely to find on here. Did you have another idiot comment or are you done now?
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Replying to @cmuratori @AshkanAliabadi and
If you are so well versed in the system, maybe you know what percentage of criminal trials go to jury, or whether the system has deep racial and economic injustices or whether it is cost efficient to take every twitter troll to a jury trial.
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