I looked up statistics on it for safety and stuff when they were first being rolled out, and have a high level understanding of what the mRNA vaccine is actually doing, and also the clear statistics currently that they are effective and safe,
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Replying to @TylerGlaiel @cmuratori and
and have looked up most of the anti-vax complaints I've seen people spread (know a decent amount of them who keep posting *actual verifiable bullshit* about it on facebook)
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Replying to @TylerGlaiel @cmuratori and
Not sure if that counts as "super rigorous" as per your definition, but seems like enough for me, in combination with what the expert consensus is from people who actually know what they're talking about
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Replying to @TylerGlaiel @sohakes and
I agree it is enough for you. My question is, is it enough to call other people "dumbass" for choosing differently?
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Replying to @cmuratori @sohakes and
the specific context of that tweet was calling people who cannot take the vaccine for medical reasons a dumbass if they are also a vocal anti-vax proponent
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Replying to @TylerGlaiel @sohakes and
OK, so more specifically, you don't think people who decline to get vaccinated are "dumbasses" per se, just those who are vocal about it?
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Replying to @cmuratori @sohakes and
personally I do think people who decline it are dumb or ignorant, but I reserve the term "dumbass" for extreme cases, such as that specific tweet which was in response to the combination of medical exemption AND vocal anti-vaxer
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Replying to @TylerGlaiel @cmuratori and
but this is also because the venn diagram of people who dont want the vax and the people who refused to wear a mask or thought masks were harmful is nearly a circle as well. that position does not seem to come in a vacuum on its own, based on people I know
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Replying to @TylerGlaiel @cmuratori and
so if theres a mythical person who did the research and came to the conclusion that they might want to wait for more data before getting the shot, and also take all the other precautions like mask wearing and avoiding crowds while waiting, then I wouldn't call that person dumb
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Replying to @TylerGlaiel @cmuratori and
but I'm pretty sure that person doesn't exist
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I guarantee you that person exists - they are just very scientific people, and obviously rare, as you might expect.
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Replying to @cmuratori @sohakes and
doesn't exist *in significant enough numbers to matter
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Replying to @TylerGlaiel @sohakes and
Well, I would argue the same about people who really understood the vaccine before taking it, and the possible long-term epidemiological outcomes, too :)
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