I think it's a risk vs benefit calculation, and I feel you don't need to fully understand the vaccine to do a decent analysis. I think "what are the risks now, and what is the possible future risk?". Since I'm not a biologist, I try to read about possible caveats from trustable
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Replying to @sohakes @TylerGlaiel and
Yes, and that's great for you. But until you have done a rigorous investigation, you shouldn't _belittle_ other people for coming to a different conclusion, right?
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"Because I asked my doctor and they said so" is the weakest explanation anyone could give for why they berate a whole class of people on-line in my view.
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I agree, but that's why I want yo understand better criticisms other than the common antivax ones which are quite easily proven as untrue. Partly because I'm curious, and also because antivax people I see are just generally misinformed.
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Replying to @sohakes @TylerGlaiel and
Much like the people here pushing the vaccine, the people against the vaccine _also_ don't know what they're talking about, but _both_ are what I would call "instinctively correct". They average out to a system that makes reasonable survival decisions.
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Some people trust authority, some people don't, and by having both you ensure that you will take a certain amount of action in uncertainty, but not too much.
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It's "humanity operating well as a collective decision system", even though everyone involved thinks everyone else is an idiot. And to be fair, everyone _is_ an idiot. But that doesn't change the outcome, which will be that humanity will survive well _regardless_ of the input.
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Do you have a scientific mindset for everything? I doubt it, you would be paralyzed. We kinda trust things will work, and sometimes we are wrong and bad things happen and the heterodox view was right. But I also find it worrisome when the heterodox view is so large and impactful.
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Replying to @sohakes @TylerGlaiel and
Scientific mindsets are not heterodox. They might be, depending on the particulars, but in general they simply want to be clear about what we have demonstrated and what we haven't.
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Yeah I was talking about two things. Most people trust authority because it works. But sometimes authority is wrong, so I agree with your point somewhat. But given the poor evidence against the mainstream view, I don't get why so many people hold onto not trusting it in this case
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It's a medical procedure. It's one of the most invasive things a government might ask you to do?
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But then we are talking about it being obligatory, right? That's more complicated indeed. But people not trusting it enough is a different issue. If it's someone who never does any medical procedures, it's consistent at least.
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