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    1. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori Aug 4
      Replying to @yvz_gny

      Yep.

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    2. Charles Nicholson BLM‏ @c_nich Aug 4
      Replying to @cmuratori @yvz_gny

      Disclaimer: I'm not a Zig zealot or even a user so this isn't a recommendation: inline asm input/output/clobbering syntax does look like someone put thought into it. https://ziglang.org/documentation/master/#Assembly …

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    3. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori Aug 4
      Replying to @c_nich @yvz_gny

      Except it doesn't? That looks exactly as crappy as the CLANG version, where the syntax is unreadable due to tons of unnecessary markup.

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    4. Charles Nicholson BLM‏ @c_nich Aug 4
      Replying to @cmuratori @yvz_gny

      Not disagreeing, but curious (again, not zealot / defending Zig at all)- I'd want to see a 1:1 mapping of variables to registers, then my asm code, then a map from regs I care about to output values. I do agree that syntax is gross but don't have any better ideas :( Got anything?

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    5. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori Aug 4
      Replying to @c_nich @yvz_gny

      I actually don't want that. I want automatic register assignment most of the time, and only when I want to manually specify all registers do I want to do that. Most of the time if I specify the exact ASM stream a register allocator can figure it out.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Charles Nicholson BLM‏ @c_nich Aug 4
      Replying to @cmuratori @yvz_gny

      Ah yeah, gotcha, kinda like MSVC: "__asm { mov ecx, my_c_var }" with no restrictions except that they fit? Agree, that would be nice.

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    7. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori Aug 4
      Replying to @c_nich @yvz_gny

      Casey Muratori Retweeted Ryan Flaherty

      JAI has this now, BTW.https://twitter.com/rflaherty71/status/1422785381729177601 …

      Casey Muratori added,

      Ryan Flaherty @rflaherty71
      Replying to @cmuratori
      This is where I'm at with the inline assembly in JAI, don't have to crawl through the intrinsics _or_ double check the generated code! pic.twitter.com/MqtEnCImDi
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    8. Charles Nicholson BLM‏ @c_nich Aug 4
      Replying to @cmuratori @yvz_gny

      🤯 That's .... very cool. Thanks for linking!

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    9. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori Aug 4
      Replying to @c_nich @yvz_gny

      Unlike all the languages I am constantly asked about, look at, and think are uninteresting (Rust/Zig/nim/etc.), JAI is actually very exciting. It has a lot of really smart stuff in it so far, I think.

      1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
    10. Charles Nicholson BLM‏ @c_nich Aug 4
      Replying to @cmuratori @yvz_gny

      I've been avidly consuming all of his tech talks on jai, very excited to explore it in depth in the future. The idea of a first-class metaprogram seems extremely powerful and expressive. (I have no real opinion on zig / nim, and rust seems like "hooray let's build c++ again")👋

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      Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori Aug 4
      Replying to @c_nich @yvz_gny

      I feel _exactly_ the same way about Rust. I have no idea why people are excited for "slightly better C++".

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        1. Justin Liew‏ @justin_liew Aug 4
          Replying to @cmuratori @c_nich @yvz_gny

          It's not just slightly better. For our use cases it's extremely ideal. We have a number of large C code bases and Rust both replaces and interops well with it so we can make sane decisions about both new code and porting code.

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        1. Mike Southron‏ @SouthyUK Aug 5
          Replying to @cmuratori @c_nich @yvz_gny

          For me it is that Rust is better than C++ for me, if only slightly, and is available to use. Jai may be amazing but is not released.

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