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    1. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Jul 11
      Replying to @al45tair @meglio and

      What do you mean? All high-end games do this as the platforms we ship on are all very different and we need to support them post-release. Branches would be an awful way to do that.

      2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    2. Alastair Houghton‏ @al45tair Jul 11
      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @meglio and

      For enterprise software and operating systems, you can’t release updates containing unexpected new code. You pretty much have to branch. Feature flags just aren’t sufficient. (Reality can be quite complicated; e.g. some sub projects might be able to use feature flags.)

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Steven Hutton‏ @StevenBHutton Jul 11
      Replying to @al45tair @Jonathan_Blow and

      What's "unexpected" code? If the argument is that OS's and enterprise software is too complicated to handle without branches I mean, yeah... shit is at least an order of magnitude too complicated to handle WITH branches which is kind of the problem all over.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    4. Steven Hutton‏ @StevenBHutton Jul 11
      Replying to @StevenBHutton @al45tair and

      I think this approach can be done to effect with large teams on large games where I have some experience. But I have no experience working on huge OS projects. Maybe they HAVE to branch but I'm skeptical.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    5. Alastair Houghton‏ @al45tair Jul 11
      Replying to @StevenBHutton @Jonathan_Blow and

      And as for OS projects, there’s usually a whole other layer over and above “normal” VC. You can see this with the Open Source Linux distos - they have package managers and each version of their distribution has different sets of packages. All have to work together.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Jul 11
      Replying to @al45tair @StevenBHutton and

      Those package managers all look to me like a giant disaster, and the first order of business should be to eliminate all of it. So if you are using that as an example of how to do things well, I am not riding that train.

      2 replies 1 retweet 21 likes
    7. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori Jul 11
      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @al45tair and

      Separately, there was no acknowledgement or rectifying of failure of terrible ideas that were pushed specifically to avoid things like this. So, COM is still here, which was supposed to "solve" the versioning problem, but we _also_ now have package managers. It's truly insane.

      2 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
    8. Octave‏ @moskitoc_ Jul 11
      Replying to @cmuratori @Jonathan_Blow and

      What sane ways to deal with versioning and dependencies are you aware of ? It seems to me that the problem itself is unavoidable if you want reusable pieces software that can evolve, but I don't know of environments where it's not a nightmare to deal with.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    9. Chris Gregory‏ @Czipperz Jul 11
      Replying to @moskitoc_ @cmuratori and

      You can just download another project and include it in your source tree.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Alastair Houghton‏ @al45tair Jul 11
      Replying to @Czipperz @moskitoc_ and

      In many ways it’s better if you can avoid it. At some point that other project might ship a security fix. And maybe it also did lots of other work in the meantime so your code is incompatible with the fixed version. Including third party code has significant costs.

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      Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori Jul 11
      Replying to @al45tair @Czipperz and

      People often say that, but then they neglect to point out the opposite, which is that the project might ship a new security _flaw_.

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        2. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow Jul 11
          Replying to @cmuratori @al45tair and

          It's a good point. If software were somehow getting better over time, I would think this argument would have more credibility. But this is plainly not the case.

          1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
        3. Jari Komppa‏ @Sol_HSA Jul 11
          Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @cmuratori and

          Software tends to get better - for fixed hardware.

          0 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
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        2. Alastair Houghton‏ @al45tair Jul 11
          Replying to @cmuratori @Czipperz and

          Sure. However, in that case, you didn’t leave your customers vulnerable to a known flaw that was already fixed and that might have public exploits published for it already. (Also, that’s another reason for branching. You don’t want to blindly take all updates from upstream.)

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. meglio‏ @meglio Jul 12
          Replying to @al45tair @cmuratori and

          So do you mean leaving your customers to a known flaw is worse than exposing them to a new known flaw?

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