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    Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori May 13

    The most depressing hallmark of computing backslide is visible repaint. I remember when computers got fast enough that you no longer saw intermediate draw results. Then, browsers happened, and web apps, and now all you see, all day, every day, is stutter and repaint.

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      2. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori May 13

        What made me think of this was this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRE3ryGworI … Here, a user seems overjoyed by the fact that they can launch a bunch of applications "quickly". But all I see on the screen is _extremely_ laggy performance, despite running on one of the faster CPUs ever made.

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      3. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori May 13

        For reference, on an M1 Mac, which has extraordinarily fast everything, the time between clicking on an icon and seeing a complete, running application should only be visible using a high-speed camera. But we are nowhere near that. You can _watch_ these things grind to a start.

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      4. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori May 13

        And as my recent tweet stream about 100ms 1gb page provisioning on Windows points out, even if you are an excellent software developer who does a great job writing your program, the OS will probably intervene and make your startup time slow despite your best efforts :(

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      1. Modus Pwnens‏ @PwnySlaystation May 13
        Replying to @cmuratori @Jonathan_Blow

        Web dev is wild and depressing. Was just watching a YouTube video where a web dev "audited" a very popular website and didn't bat an eye that it took over 9 seconds to fully load all the elements. Guess that's pretty good!

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      2. Felix‏ @felixplesoianu May 13
        Replying to @cmuratori @blubberquark

        Whenever I code in a compiled language, it throws me to have an app that starts and reacts instantly. Puts me off-balance.

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      3. Andreas Svensson‏ @syranide May 14
        Replying to @felixplesoianu @cmuratori @blubberquark

        Just like there's the UX theory of "letting the user wait is good, it makes the user think the computer is working hard". Soon enough maybe we'll also have "letting the user see the UI refreshly slowly and lag is good, it makes the user think it's internally complex and valuable"

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      2. Jack‏ @pennmurtons May 13
        Replying to @cmuratori @Jonathan_Blow

        Build bigger pipes, people decide to shit more. No one wants 3 autoplay vids, 5 animated menus, 8 ads, and a dozen doodads running on a webpage, but companies sure do.

        2 replies 1 retweet 17 likes
      3. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 13
        Replying to @pennmurtons @cmuratori

        But, even all that garbage should come up instantly.

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      2. Todd Laney‏ @ToddLa May 13
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        But all the redraw is syned to refresh no tearing, just dropped (no 60hz) frames.

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      3. Andreas Svensson‏ @syranide May 14
        Replying to @ToddLa @cmuratori

        You would think so, but no, not even that. I can literally see the tiling edges in Chrome when it repaints.

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