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    Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori Apr 19

    Yet another financial services security success story: ALL BANKS EVERYWHERE: "Never give out your login information to anyone." @Intuit: "In order for any of our stuff to work, you have to give us all your bank usernames and passwords."

    11:01 AM - 19 Apr 2021
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      1. an argument for the pit‏ @jeblucas Apr 19
        Replying to @cmuratori @Intuit

        "I noticed you haven't downloaded your second 280MB update today. Would you like to do that now? (The software will not work without it)"

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      2. Ivan Braidi‏ @Ivan_Braidi Apr 19
        Replying to @cmuratori @Intuit

        I'd like to hear a reply from them to justify an epic fail like this one.

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      3. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori Apr 19
        Replying to @Ivan_Braidi @Intuit

        It will be a very hand-wavey "we securely use / store / whatever" response, and then sometime in 2022 and 2023 you can look forward to the Intuit hack that leaks everyone's passwords where they apologize for the plain-text logs that they "didn't know about".

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      1. Ashkan Aliabadi‏ @AshkanAliabadi Apr 19
        Replying to @cmuratori @Intuit

        Non-problems like this can be easily avoided with proper use of the borrow checker. Alternatively you can record logins on the block chain.

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      2. Matt Cornell‏ @mattdacornell Apr 19
        Replying to @cmuratori @Intuit

        This for sure, but I've never really bothered to understand the "routing and account number". The biggest payments I make online are with numbers printed on the bottom of checks I've handed to /anyone/. At least I can trivially invalidate my tokens.

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      3. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori Apr 19
        Replying to @mattdacornell @Intuit

        The ACH stuff seems pretty nuts, yes. Apparently with account and routing numbers banks can just move money around without your permission? It at least seems that way, since it happens with seemingly no holder-side authentication :/

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      1. Panta‏ @thepanta82 Apr 19
        Replying to @cmuratori @Intuit

        Sounds like the bank's 1976 cobol software doesn't have an API, so they have to scrape the website.

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      2. Eric Desrosiers‏ @Eric_Desro Apr 19
        Replying to @cmuratori @Intuit

        What bothers me is there are obvious creative ways to deal with this. Bank should offer read only logins for services like Intuit and credit cards should offer one time use numbers for purchase through say a simple phone app. It's a small hassle for users, but better security.

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      3. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori Apr 19
        Replying to @Eric_Desro @Intuit

        There are so many ways things could be done more securely and more privately, and none of them are pursued :( Instead, billions of dollars a year are spent investing in "the blockchain", which will solve literally none of these problems.

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      1. Brandon Traphagen‏ @btrap_dev Apr 20
        Replying to @cmuratori @Intuit

        What is even worse is that intuit doesn't need to exist as a company. So the most secure thing would be to remove them altogether. Now one less place knows all of you banking info, social, and other important information

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