This was another good episode, but I always get frustrated with the weird ontology of self-perceived low-level programmers who think the only "real" thing is assembly language as written in the 80s and distainfully dismiss high-level programming concepts as mere "abstractions"https://twitter.com/adamgordonbell/status/1366373423832838149 …
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So the primary thing people like me are arguing for is that people need to learn things like assembly language, not because they need to write code in it, but because if they don't understand it, they don't really understand the high-level code either. They just think they do.
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In summary, we are saying programmers should learn how the machine works, and evaluate their higher-level constructs against the resulting machine behavior those constructs produce. Nobody is arguing that everything has to be hand-coded in asm. I certainly don't do that myself :)
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