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    1. Noodles Forever‏ @forever_noodles 26 Feb 2020
      Replying to @cmuratori @Jonathan_Blow @JJJH

      I know, your blog post is what made me think of it. I'm just bringing that up as a single counterexample; the Javascript ecosystem is one of the categories you/JB rightfully poopoo on, but its relatively new declarative frameworks fall in line with that idea.

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    3. Noodles Forever‏ @forever_noodles 26 Feb 2020
      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @cmuratori @JJJH

      Ok man, but I’m sure you get my point that Casey’s IM gui code looks more like React and traditional OO gui code looks more like making direct DOM manipulations. “True” IMGUI isn’t possible with the DOM, which is fine to poopoo!

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    6. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori 27 Feb 2020

      I doubt anyone could really do a "good" UI layer for the web as long as it's still going through the DOM. The DOM is just an f'ing disaster.

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    9. Zara‏ @vzaramel 27 Feb 2020

      I guess casey would prefer something more like svelte where you resolve this dependecies at compile time and not at run time with a virtual dom diff.

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    10. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori 27 Feb 2020
      Replying to @vzaramel @Jonathan_Blow and

      I'm fine with the DOM diff. It's the DOM itself that sucks, not the idea of diff'ing it. The DOM is horrid, regardless of what you're using to drive it. I have not looked at React et al, but I would be surprised if they were anything but a minor nuisance compared to the DOM.

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      Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori 27 Feb 2020
      Replying to @cmuratori @vzaramel and

      Like, my data-free guess would be that these frameworks are poorly written, bloated, and slow compared to what they could optimally be, but most of that pales in comparison to the far-worse-on-all-those-same-counts DOM.

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        2. Gustavo Maciel‏ @Gtoknu 28 Feb 2020
          Replying to @cmuratori @vzaramel and

          Right on point once again.

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        3. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori 28 Feb 2020
          Replying to @Gtoknu @vzaramel and

          Web companies are nothing if not predictable :)

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