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    1. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori 13 Feb 2020

      Other than just wanting to be able to copy other people's work as they often do all the time anyway, I'm not sure I understand major tech giants' argument as to why APIs would not be copyrightable. They are, if anything, much harder to make well than their implementations.

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    2. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori 13 Feb 2020

      Suggesting that somehow figuring out the correct way to design something is less important than having filled in the functions with their (usually obvious) implementation is frankly rather absurd. If you want to argue _none_ of it is copyrightable, go ahead...

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    3. Andrew J. Bromage‏ @deguerre 14 Feb 2020
      Replying to @cmuratori

      The lawsuit is about the Java APIs. Any discussion of "the correct way to design something" is probably irrelevant. But I guess the point is that this is in line with engineering practice in other disciplines.

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    4. Andrew J. Bromage‏ @deguerre 14 Feb 2020
      Replying to @deguerre @cmuratori

      Good building safety codes are hard to come up with but it'd be bad for everyone if you had to make your building less safe because someone claimed to own the code.

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      Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori 14 Feb 2020
      Replying to @deguerre

      But that is true of everything. Literally. There are no industries that wouldn't have more, cheaper existing things if you removed IP protection, whether it's safety or anything else.

      12:49 PM - 14 Feb 2020
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        2. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori 14 Feb 2020
          Replying to @cmuratori @deguerre

          The question is, if you removed that protection, would you have gotten to the current place you are, or would nobody have bothered because there was no way to make a company in that space?

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        3. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori 14 Feb 2020
          Replying to @cmuratori @deguerre

          _Especially_ with APIs, which today are absolutely terrible, I think it'd be a major mistake to declare ourselves done and to discourage people from investing in designing and perfecting new APIs. Which is exactly what removing copyright protection would do.

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        2. Andrew J. Bromage‏ @deguerre 14 Feb 2020
          Replying to @cmuratori

          I'm not going to defend the American tech industry. But I guess the thing here is interoperability. Common standards are a public good. And you're right that the world should have thought very hard about using a programming language that a company claimed exclusivity over.

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        3. Andrew J. Bromage‏ @deguerre 14 Feb 2020
          Replying to @deguerre @cmuratori

          Of course, the central problem is that copyright is a very poor fit for software. If we were designing an IP protection system from scratch today, we wouldn't design this.

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