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    1. Grand Central Dispatch‏ @_gcd______ 28 Oct 2019
      Replying to @bryanww @Jonathan_Blow

      Dude, GCD has the best UI.

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    2. Bryan W. Wagner‏ @bryanww 29 Oct 2019
      Replying to @_gcd______ @Jonathan_Blow

      By the same argument, Java Swing is pretty good too, & I'm not even being cynical. It's actually really well designed as an EDA-based minimal rendering graphical delta framework (i.e. only redraw dirty regions). Honestly, I've found immediate mode UIs much more efficient (imgui)

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    3. Bryan W. Wagner‏ @bryanww 29 Oct 2019
      Replying to @bryanww @_gcd______ @Jonathan_Blow

      although, the obvious thing here is I'm talking about UI; GCD is a much broader concept, so I'll concede to that, certainly. Still, it's just EDA delegating to a framework with its own threading dispositions. The idea of coroutines is much more powerful.

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    4. Bryan W. Wagner‏ @bryanww 29 Oct 2019
      Replying to @bryanww @_gcd______ @Jonathan_Blow

      The short version of coroutines: - Pick a context (1 thread? Pool of threads?) - Write code that "suspends" i.e. is explicit about blocking on, say, IO - Is Procedural (no callbacks) made possible by the suspend syntax

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    5. Bryan W. Wagner‏ @bryanww 29 Oct 2019
      Replying to @bryanww @_gcd______ @Jonathan_Blow

      @Jonathan_Blow closely related to Fibers. It's too good of an idea not to be in JAI. See Kotlin. Can probably make a better version of it than Kotlin.

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    7. Bryan W. Wagner‏ @bryanww 29 Oct 2019
      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @_gcd______

      it turns callback code for into procedural code for async operations on IO. Maybe only the idea of suspend functions is core level (a function proactively yields the thread). This appears to be where concurrent programming is headed.

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    10. Bryan W. Wagner‏ @bryanww 29 Oct 2019
      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @_gcd______

      Great point. I've never actually handled interrupts at a low level so my own understanding is poor, but compared to the UI libraries I've seen where the main loop continues to draw while a thread blocks on IO, suspending is a great idea. Possibly a non-goal for JAI or

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      Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori 29 Oct 2019
      Replying to @bryanww @Jonathan_Blow @_gcd______

      Suspend is not a thing you use for parallel programming (unless it's a fantastically shitty program). Suspend is for managing code that wants to do things at different times, to avoid you having to break it into pieces manually that get called at those different times.

      9:57 AM - 29 Oct 2019
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        1. Bryan W. Wagner‏ @bryanww 29 Oct 2019
          Replying to @cmuratori @Jonathan_Blow @_gcd______

          Yes, and that backs up the point that maybe we don't have the best naming in common lingo. I'm learning a lot from this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coroutine  Non-preemptive multitasking is the term for the idea I like (which I've heard before but isn't in my daily use)

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