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    Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori 18 Oct 2019

    Casey Muratori Retweeted Dolphin Emulator

    This behavior from @Microsoft is completely unacceptable. It is one thing for an optional third-party virus checker to blacklist applications erroneously. It's quite another for the monopoly desktop operating system to do the same.https://twitter.com/Dolphin_Emu/status/1184971556264374272 …

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    Dolphin Emulator @Dolphin_Emu
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      2. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori 18 Oct 2019

        Using opaque, uncorrectable(!!) machine learning for something as important as whether or not people can ship software - in many cases something that determines whether companies stay in business and devs put food on the table - is absolutely unconscionable.

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      3. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori 18 Oct 2019

        To make matters worse, this is in their anti-virus software, which only exists because their operating system doesn't have a usable permissions model, can't properly sandbox, and is riddled with so much bloat and so many security vulnerabilities that it has to include one.

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      4. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori 18 Oct 2019

        The whole concept that the world's primary desktop vendor now has an untested and malfunctioning AI virus deployed everywhere under the guise of helping to prevent malicious viruses is absurd, ridiculous, and only seems common because of how bad computing has gotten.

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      2.  🐅 Jamin Grey  🧢‏ @JaminGrey 18 Oct 2019
        Replying to @cmuratori @Microsoft

        Would this get fixed by Dolphin signing their executables with an 3rd party certificate? I mean, that costs a few hundred IIRC, but isn't that the "correct" solution?

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      3. Robert Basler‏ @onemanmmo 18 Oct 2019
        Replying to @JaminGrey @cmuratori @Microsoft

        My signed game regularly gets false positives from virus vendors, so probably not.

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      1. Stewart Smith  💻 💢‏ @sdryds 18 Oct 2019
        Replying to @cmuratori @Microsoft

        The same argument can be made for YouTube's de-monitization algorithms. Using machine learning to determine people's lively hoods is wrong in a world without machine learning explainability.

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      1.  🎮 Pavel Bibergal‏ @cyberkm 18 Oct 2019
        Replying to @cmuratori @Microsoft

        We had similar case with other major av provider that started to "mark" our game as "potentially unsafe". They said that from now on we have to send them our app to review with each new release (for money). One letter from our corp lawyer and they fixed their buggy detection code

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      2. Scare-a-dino Casket‏ @taradinoc 20 Oct 2019
        Replying to @cmuratori @Microsoft

        Is this the same system Chrome is consulting when it won't let me download my own builds, or is Google's cloud AV just broken in the same way?

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      3. Casey Muratori‏ @cmuratori 20 Oct 2019
        Replying to @taradinoc @Microsoft

        No, I think that is a separate (and also terrible) virus checking system.

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      1. argontus‏ @argontus_ 21 Oct 2019
        Replying to @cmuratori @Jonathan_Blow @Microsoft

        I wonder if this is more fuel to the fire that scares developers into adopting some common software stack like Electron. If every app updates the same way, it's probably easier for the ML to figure out it's not a virus. Gaming the algorithms would drive the development.

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