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Jason Antic
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Obsessively pursuing the perfection of image and video colorization/restoration using deep learning. Creator of DeOldify.

Ocean Beach, San Diego
deoldify.ai
Joined January 2010

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    1. Jason Antic‏ @citnaj Jun 19
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      Replying to @theshawwn @quasimondo @ChombaBupe

      Yeah that's exactly how it would have gone. They were quietly using my open source until they found out about the code that I didn't give a way yet that looked much better. If it were free and there was no alternative, why would they contact me?

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    2. Shawn Presser‏ @theshawwn Jun 19
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      Your code would be released under a restrictive license. Are you saying that they'd blatantly rip off the code? They'd contact you for the usual reasons: They want to make money with your code, and your code prohibits anyone from making money with it except you.

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    3. Jason Antic‏ @citnaj Jun 19
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      Here comes the army of lawyers I don't have.

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    4. Shawn Presser‏ @theshawwn Jun 19
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      You keep saying that lawyers are necessary. Your position on this is "Companies will break the law unless I have lawyers to stop them." It's ironic that you're so idealistic with politics but so jaded with business. :)

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    5. Jason Antic‏ @citnaj Jun 19
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      Yes. As we've seen the past few years in particular, the only thing that stops a lot of scum bags from breaking the law is enforcement of said law. Idealistic? Well I certainly don't like Trump and make that well known but not sure if that's "idealistic".

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    6. Mario Klingemann‏Verified account @quasimondo Jun 19
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      Yeah, somehow the only idealist I can see here is you, Shawn. I mean it's nice that you hold humanity in such high regard and that you seem not to have had any bad experiences in that area. In my experience sharing is good for fame and karma, but not something that pays the rent.

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    7. Jason Antic‏ @citnaj Jun 19
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      This has totally been my experience. I have lots of internet points! Not so much the money relative to what people seem to think lol :P I'm taking a salary that's less than what I was making at my previous job (which wasn't spectacular for software).

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    8. Shawn Presser‏ @theshawwn Jun 19
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      You're both claiming that MyHeritage would break the law and risk their company's standing just to rip off your code. I think that's a mistaken view. It's not idealism to say so.

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    9. Jason Antic‏ @citnaj Jun 19
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      Not that. There's the rest of the world that can repackage and resell the work and the burden would be on me to prove it with my invisible army of lawyers.

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    10. Shawn Presser‏ @theshawwn Jun 19
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      Why not that? MyHeritage is a perfect example of why your concern is misplaced. You have what they want. They're a big company who won't risk their reputation for a little revenue. And yet when that example comes along which shows that the view is mistaken, it's "not that." Hm.

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      Jason Antic‏ @citnaj Jun 19
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      I'm not evading your point. I'm saying somebody else could easily repackage and sell to MyHeritage. The burden would be on me to prove the reseller is in the wrong. Good luck on that, me.

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        2. Shawn Presser‏ @theshawwn Jun 19
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          But you're the one everyone knows made DeOldify. Why would MyHeritage want some repackaged knockoff when they could get the real thing? What you're describing here – how often does it happen, really? Can you point to some examples?

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        3. Jason Antic‏ @citnaj Jun 19
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          It's this: Can I actually afford the problem if it happens? Is it a risk I can actually take? No I don't have a crystal ball and don't have stats to "prove" how the future will go. But I do know there's a lot of bending and breaking the law going on regularly.

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