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Jason Antic
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Jason Antic

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Obsessively pursuing the perfection of image and video colorization/restoration using deep learning. Creator of DeOldify.

Ocean Beach, San Diego
deoldify.ai
Joined January 2010

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    1. Shawn Presser‏ @theshawwn Jun 19
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      Replying to @ChombaBupe @citnaj @quasimondo

      Cowards. You're all worried that someone's going to come along and do your own work better than you can, or steal your little secrets that don't really matter in the long run. Have some faith in your work! The internet will be happy to hound a company that breaks your license.

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    2. Chomba Bupe‏ @ChombaBupe Jun 19
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      Open source is for large companies that need a community of experts around their tech stack from which they can recruit. They don't open source for charity or kindness it's a trick.

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    3. Chomba Bupe‏ @ChombaBupe Jun 19
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      Replying to @ChombaBupe @theshawwn and

      Android OS is open source for a reason.pic.twitter.com/uOljRCtrdP

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    4. Shawn Presser‏ @theshawwn Jun 19
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      Scientists make their work available for others to use. Why? Doesn't it matter? Especially when we profess to be machine learning researchers (in some sense)?

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    5. Shawn Presser‏ @theshawwn Jun 19
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      You're all basically advocating for "Take what you want, take advantage of anyone who's stupid enough to make their code public, and then close off your own work so that no one can build on it." Am I wrong?

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    6. Mario Klingemann‏Verified account @quasimondo Jun 19
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      For scientists one of the rewards in this game is citations which will raise their standing and give them access to bigger grants and more interesting research. In an ever increasing avalanche of papers being published sharing the code is one way to actually get noticed.

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    7. Jason Antic‏ @citnaj Jun 19
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      Yep, totally different incentives, protections, etc.

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    8. Shawn Presser‏ @theshawwn Jun 19
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      Well... *dramatic flair* It sounds like I'll be the first one to break that mold, then. You can feel happy and safe that you've risked nothing to help anyone else. @quasimondo will have his art, and you'll have your business, and it'll be all to yourselves.

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    9. Jason Antic‏ @citnaj Jun 19
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      Replying to @theshawwn @quasimondo @ChombaBupe

      I've already released a year's worth of work on open source. It was pretty novel work that made several people money. @ChombaBupe is right about the idea on delayed release. I've stated that intention already. No offense but you're coming across as a zealot on this subject.

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    10. Shawn Presser‏ @theshawwn Jun 19
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      No one is telling you to open source your work. Your reasons for not open sourcing your work are invalid and make no sense. Me pointing that out and open sourcing my work is "coming across as a zealot"? Sounds like I'd rather be a zealot then.

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      Jason Antic‏ @citnaj Jun 19
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      Replying to @theshawwn @quasimondo @ChombaBupe

      So there's a larger context here, and I gotta say, it's really silly to project everything through such a narrow lens. It's more complicated than that.

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        2. Shawn Presser‏ @theshawwn Jun 19
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          If what I'm saying is incorrect, why does it seem to upset you? Just shrug it off and move on. It's not like my opinion matters. I think you're upset because you know the lens isn't so narrow, and that it's easier to believe the lens is narrow.

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        3. Shawn Presser‏ @theshawwn Jun 19
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          There are endless justifications for not releasing one's own work: Someone might take it. Some other business won't tolerate it. I'm trying to be smart about it. I will release it, just not yet. It's almost always evasion. And it's easier to believe that than to just do it.

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