There's no reason for people to pay me if I give it away for free. That's the argument in my case.
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Replying to @citnaj @quasimondo
So mistaken that it's "not even wrong." I love you man, but you have some weird mindsets about business. Like I said, I don't expect anyone to change their minds. But people pay for a service, not for code. And a service can't be so easily replicated.
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Replying to @theshawwn @quasimondo
I don't think it's too weird :P . I'd say my attitudes align more closely with the Basecamp and ExplosionAI camps. That is keep it simple and sell a good product for a reasonable price. The current ideology of giving away stuff for free is what is weird to me (ads? no way).
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Replying to @citnaj @quasimondo
Non sequitur. Giving away the code isn't giving away the product. The code is worthless. You feel your code is valuable because it "powers your business." But no one else can get it to power *their* business except you. It's easier to rewrite it from scratch.
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Replying to @theshawwn @quasimondo
OK I'm just going to ask then: Are you running a business right now that proves your point? I genuinely don't know, so I'm asking.
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(Are you? MyHeritage seems to be running things. :P) With any luck, I will be. https://www.tagpls.com/exp?n=imagenet2012validation … may not seem like much, but there's a real need for an open tagging platform that anyone can contribute to. And the upsells are endless. Code's here:https://github.com/sheminusminus/modelbattle …
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Replying to @theshawwn @quasimondo
Right so that's great. It's just not everything can fit that nice open model you're promoting. That's the gist. It's just like you wouldn't want to run the military as a decentralized organization with no secrets. There's no one size fits all solution here.
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Replying to @citnaj @quasimondo
You keep pointing to justifications that make no sense. No one is proposing that the military be run with a decentralized model. (I know it's just an example, but it's still an example you chose!) You wouldn't want to put dirt in an apple pie, either, but no one suggested it.
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Replying to @theshawwn @quasimondo
Actually that is what you're suggesting, at least from my point of view! No one who made a product out of open source DeOldify gave me money. That's ok and not unexpected! But what would you expect me to do- wait for them to come to me to service it? Hasn't happened yet.
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Replying to @citnaj @quasimondo
No. As I've said before, release your code under GPL and then make noise when they use it in a business.
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Tough to rely on a steady supply of legal posturing when you're bootstrapping.....
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Replying to @citnaj @quasimondo
It's not tough. Won't do it != tough to do. It's just a matter of doing it. The reason I'm advocating for this is that I suspect it would increase your standing. Has
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You know he's deliberately setting out to do this fastai stuff not worrying about making money on it right? He has said this publicly- I'm not just speculating. So that's a bit of a different situation there.
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