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Obsessively pursuing the perfection of image and video colorization/restoration using deep learning. Creator of DeOldify.

Ocean Beach, San Diego
deoldify.ai
Joined January 2010

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    1. Jason Antic‏ @citnaj Feb 27
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      Jason Antic Retweeted Jeremy Howard

      To me, mathematical notation can be viewed as "bad code". Single letter variable names that are often re-purposed and change meaning. Overly obscured meaning and of course no comments even when they'd help :P . So this is a great step to helping readers like me.https://twitter.com/jeremyphoward/status/1233011836057870338 …

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      Jeremy Howard @jeremyphoward
      In our book we always show code equivalents for any math notation. So often, the Python & @PyTorch code is clearer and simpler. And you can actually execute it and try it! For instance, LogSumExp: pic.twitter.com/MfuDaMMcGl
      45 replies 164 retweets 1,050 likes
    2. Jake Krajewski‏ @Jakekrajewski Feb 27
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      Woah them’s fightin’ words. Ironically, fastai is not known for clean, verbose code (full of bad code in the lessons). Also the method train shown in this translation isn’t really clean either. I mean... do you really have to dump on math for any reason?

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    3. Jason Antic‏ @citnaj Feb 27
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      4/ That all being said...yeah...I'll readily admit some of the notebooks could be cleaned up a bit. They're constantly evolving the code to a better place though which I think is great.

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    4. Jake Krajewski‏ @Jakekrajewski Feb 27
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      Which is good, and I didn’t mean to dump on fastai for all the amazing good they do. Just if you hold them up to the idea of mathematical notation itself... I know who will win that contest 😂 and yes, hands down the translations into code do help. Agreed.

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    5. Jeremy Howard‏ @jeremyphoward Feb 27
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      Replying to @Jakekrajewski @citnaj

      If you ignore the last 60 years of research into notation, then sure...

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    6. Jake Krajewski‏ @Jakekrajewski Feb 27
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      Replying to @jeremyphoward @citnaj

      I’m not definitely not informed about the past 60 years of research into mathematical notation. Is there a decades long movement against it?

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    7. Jeremy Howard‏ @jeremyphoward Feb 27
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      Replying to @Jakekrajewski @citnaj

      The fastai style is based on the work coming out of Iverson et al since the past 1950's. What you call "bad" is just unfamiliar. It would be great if you did some research before dumping on the hard work of others that you don't understand. It hurts everyone.

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    8. Jeremy Howard‏ @jeremyphoward Feb 27
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      Replying to @jeremyphoward @Jakekrajewski @citnaj

      Many many open source developers drop out because of behaviour like this.

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    9. Christiaan Pretorius‏ @Teejip Feb 27
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      In production engineering situations where other people need to understand your code using abbreviations are seen as less good. I understand though that the naming should match the math notation. Academic/educational and production code differ. So maybe the argument is moot.

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      Jason Antic‏ @citnaj Feb 27
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      Replying to @Teejip @jeremyphoward @Jakekrajewski

      The abbreviations assume a commonly understood context and convention that's consistently applied. It takes a bit longer to get used to but I do think it can be quite effective depending on how it's done. More than one way to achieve the same basic goals (understandability).

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