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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Mar 2021

      Interesting science & sociology of science at once. This year will clearly force an updating of our understanding of role of aerosol transmission for respiratory pathogens. PLUS it's almost text-book Kuhnian in how it's happening: resistance, "epicycling" and then paradigm shift.

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Mar 2021

      Yes, feels like cold-comfort now as we are and have been late, but we're here. The new CDC director has already cited importance of aerosols as one of things that most surprised her—along with a good chunk of people, clearly. But this will bring in good changes for future.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted James Clark  📈 📉¯\_(ツ)_/¯

      Nothing wrong with a (sensible) amount of hand-washing but the issue is that our mitigations need a hierarchy of energy and resources. Deep cleaning is still a big thing, parks/beaches are still shut down. Clearly—very clearly—our stack was wrong-ordered.https://twitter.com/mr_james_c/status/1373721813058994177 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      James Clark  📈 📉¯\_(ツ)_/¯ @mr_james_c
      The UK is going have a hell of a time overcoming a year's worth of sunk costs on handwashing messaging. https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1373721060282089476 …
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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Mar 2021

      Also, it’s interesting how it’s places like Japan and South Korea and Hong Kong etc., whose scientists knew from day one that airborne transmission was a key route—disregarding global official guidance essentially—that managed to beat back outbreaks to get back to near normalcy.

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Nicole Boyson

      Yes. Exactly here, too. They “deep clean” the pool area. The incredible amount of energy and resources going into “deep cleaning” in a completely excessive manner while ventilation is essentially ignored or is an afterthought is the problem. A year in!https://twitter.com/nikir1/status/1373731838208933888 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Nicole Boyson @nikir1
      Replying to @zeynep
      I think of the money and time my daughter’s swim coaches are spending to deep clean the pool area every day and pray they don’t have to shut down the program. We have known for (quite!) a while about the lack of surface transmission, yet state-mandated hygiene theater continues.
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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted eli b.

      Yes. Many had been through SARS and they have top-notch infectious disease specialists and epidemiologist. Reading their documents from February/March of 2020 is mind-blowing. They went their own way. It’s all there.https://twitter.com/bilditup1/status/1373732446802415620 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      eli b. @bilditup1
      Replying to @zeynep
      I'm still not sure why the global orgs were so wrong on this. Did these countries have special institutional knowledge (e.g. from previous outbreaks) that just wasn't considered by the rest of the world? What happened?
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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Mar 2021

      I think it started with "we don't know so we'll do everything we know from the past." At the guidance level, we disregarded/delayed relevant expertise (Japan etc. did not). Personal level? I think it gave people a sense of control. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/02/how-public-health-messaging-backfired/618147/ … https://twitter.com/M1k3ySCC/status/1373740261608726528 …pic.twitter.com/obXpZ5dkcD

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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted SCDC

      Sometimes people say "wait, doesn't everybody know airborne transmission is important?" If you follow the right experts on Twitter, I guess? Meanwhile, a library in one of the highest-educated US counties is "quarantining" returned books for seven days.https://twitter.com/SCDC87/status/1373755582214193157 …

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      SCDC @SCDC87
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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted LeftyLonghorn

      As usual, examples pouring in... Not too surprised. I already hear from people, and look at many examples across the country including where I am: with three major research universities within a small radius. Excessive hygiene theater is very much alive.https://twitter.com/LeftyLonghorn/status/1373765212856279050 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      LeftyLonghorn @LeftyLonghorn
      Replying to @zeynep @jonathanchait
      My kids have been doing face to face school. All paper assignments (tests, quizzes, etc) must be quarantined for 3 days before the teacher can grade them.
      8 replies 56 retweets 456 likes
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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Mar 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Jeff Lipshultz

      I guess we can make this even worse with starting a lengthy, contentious thread on whether books can be called "isolated" or "quarantined" if we don't know about the infection status of the borrower.https://twitter.com/jeflip/status/1373767242383515656 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Jeff Lipshultz @jeflip
      Replying to @zeynep
      Boston Public Library is quarantining returns for 4 days... https://www.bpl.org/news/bpl-to-go/  But also no late fees so that's nice pic.twitter.com/KFan5w6iGg
      10 replies 20 retweets 280 likes
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      chrisjohn‏ @chrisjohn_12345 21 Mar 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      I have jury duty in Boston in May. Jury prep video emphasizes hand washing and special cleanings. I worked in that building and know that there is no outside air brought in thru its HVAC. Fortunately I have N95s and have been vaxxed.

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        1. dragonfly in flight  💉 💉 💉‏ @dragonfly_in_ca 21 Mar 2021
          Replying to @chrisjohn_12345 @zeynep

          It is absolutely insane.

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        2. Don Cole‏ @PVnRT 21 Mar 2021
          Replying to @chrisjohn_12345 @zeynep

          How? That's a code violation...

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        3. chrisjohn‏ @chrisjohn_12345 21 Mar 2021
          Replying to @PVnRT @zeynep

          It’s an old building (1930s). Steam radiators and window air conditioners. You can see them still in the windows from outside. I guess they could turn on the AC units in early May but that’s iffy. The building was also a “sick building.”pic.twitter.com/yF3IRZ3A52

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        2. Jeff Bullard‏ @JeffBullard16 21 Mar 2021
          Replying to @chrisjohn_12345 @zeynep

          Are you still using the N95s after being vaxxed? That seems a bit overkill. Unless you're recently vaxxed like <3 weeks ago. If so, why?

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        2. Douglas Berry‏ @DBAkron 21 Mar 2021
          Replying to @chrisjohn_12345 @zeynep

          On the contrary, The American Society of Ventilation Engineers required 10 cfm per person of outside air since 1925. # of Persons determined by occupation load per SF. Increased to 15 cfm per person in 1980 & to 25 cfm per person in 1991. (1)

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        3. Douglas Berry‏ @DBAkron 21 Mar 2021
          Replying to @DBAkron @chrisjohn_12345 @zeynep

          (1) The amount of ventilation is a compromise between Heat gain/heat loss, too much, too little ventilation is not good. For covid-19 the keys are constant ventilation, a fine particle filter, and more outdoor air. Entire systems would have to be re-designed $ revised. (2)

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        1. Dr. M. Tullius "No Mercy for Seditionists" Cicero‏ @TulliusCicero43 21 Mar 2021
          Replying to @chrisjohn_12345 @zeynep

          I'm facing the same thing here in Albuquerque in April, except we don't even get a video--just a photocopied letter from the NM Supreme Court assuring us the state court system's hygiene theater and plexiglass (!?!!) will keep us safe.

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        2. Betzi Bateman‏ @betzib 22 Mar 2021
          Replying to @chrisjohn_12345 @zeynep

          Every time I've been told by doctors that I need to be there physically, they act like I'm an irrational 5-year-old when I express concern. They tell me they wipe everything down, but when I ask about the ventilation system, they don't even answer the question.

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        3. chrisjohn‏ @chrisjohn_12345 22 Mar 2021
          Replying to @betzib @zeynep

          For my doctor’s appointments I wore an N95 for the visits. I was also lucky that the offices weren’t packed with people. I’m sure tho that ventilation wasn’t great.

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