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    Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner May 16

    So, Rudy Giuliani told Fox News and CNN that Robert Mueller said his office will, per Fox News, "abide by DOJ guidelines" that assert a sitting president cannot be indicted. This is not surprising; it is mainly notable if Mueller told Giuliani so.

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      2. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner May 16

        Here's the CNN story:https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/16/politics/rudy-giuliani-robert-mueller-indictment/index.html …

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      3. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner May 16

        Chris Geidner Retweeted John Roberts

        And the Fox News tweet:https://twitter.com/johnrobertsFox/status/996866827627257859 …

        Chris Geidner added,

        John RobertsVerified account @johnrobertsFox
        Rudy Giuliani tells @FoxNews that Robert Mueller told @realDonaldTrump legal team two weeks ago that he will abide by DOJ guidelines that a President cannot be indicted. Giuliani said Mueller has no choice but to honor a 1999 Clinton-era memo
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      4. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner May 16

        The Special Counsel's Office, of course, is not going to confirm this. (I've asked.) And Giuliani has a track record here that makes it less than 100% clear what exactly Mueller said or agreed to in this situation.

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      5. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner May 16

        Assuming it is true (or roughly true): Based on what we know, it seems most likely to me that Mueller would tell Giuliani this as part of an effort to get Trump (and his lawyers) to agree to Trump's interview.

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      6. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner May 16

        The Special Counsel's Office spokesperson declined to comment.

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      7. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner May 16

        tl;dr: It has never seemed likely that by-the-book Mueller would seek to go outside of the historical decisions of DOJ on this question. That's the biggest reason why it's believable that SCO reached this conclusion.

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      8. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner May 16

        As to what exactly Mueller told Giuliani, who knows — and I've explained why I think it most likely it would have been discussed.

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      9. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner May 16

        None of this, note, has anything to do with the focus, findings, or direction of Mueller's investigation. This solely has to do with what they believe they can do with the conclusion of that investigation. For the president, it's a report to Congress.

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      10. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner May 16

        OK. That's all I've got on this. I get that lots of you just want to say that Rudy's lying. My point is: It's so obviously where Mueller was likely to end up that it's believable. If I talk to Giuliani, I'll ask him more — but Mueller's office isn't talking.

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      11. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner May 16

        [One #lawdork note to append to this thread: I am not, by this, stating my view on whether I think DOJ’s longstanding position is legally correct—I think the questions raised are fair—but rather stating that it would surprise me to see Mueller be the the one to try to change it.]

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      12. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner May 16

        Here's the 2000 DOJ Office of Legal Counsel memo on the topic: https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/olc/opinions/2000/10/31/op-olc-v024-p0222_0.pdf …pic.twitter.com/D1ODb5eCcq

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      13. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner May 16

        The opinion was written by Randolph Moss, a former clerk to Justice Stevens who was nominated to a federal judgeship by Obama: He's now Judge Moss and he sits on the District Court in DC.pic.twitter.com/gJeCDqJCqe

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      2. Becke Davidson #StopCultureOfCorruption‏ @Becke_Davidson May 16
        Replying to @chrisgeidner

        Suspect RG is lying. Mueller has no loose lips.

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      3. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner May 16
        Replying to @Becke_Davidson

        This makes no sense.

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      2. Jake West‏ @Jake_West_On_It May 16
        Replying to @chrisgeidner

        Jake West Retweeted Andrew C Laufer, Esq

        https://twitter.com/lauferlaw/status/982998358590738432 …

        Jake West added,

        Andrew C Laufer, Esq @lauferlaw
        A sitting President can be indicted and prosecuted for any crime outside the scope of his official duties as POTUS just like anyone else. The legal burden is upon those who say he can’t. https://twitter.com/becky80257801/status/982997839965024257 …
        1 reply 1 retweet 9 likes
      3. Wendell Sherk‏ @WendellSherk May 16
        Replying to @Jake_West_On_It @chrisgeidner

        Problem with Andrew's position is that this is against long-standing DOJ policy which Mueller has never shown a desire to disobey. Andrew is not the special counsel and can't force Mueller to disobey the policy.

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      4. R. Bell‏ @RobtBell May 16
        Replying to @WendellSherk @Jake_West_On_It @chrisgeidner

        Yes it's long-standing DOJ policy not to indict POTUS. It's also long-standing policy for POTUS not to use his office to enrich his family while covering up foreign influence over U.S. govt. We're in uncharted territory and the reasoning behind the DOJ guidelines doesn't apply.

        0 replies 2 retweets 1 like
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      1. Harry Litman‏ @harrylitman May 16
        Replying to @chrisgeidner

        right. and given it's Giuliani, not inconceivable that he's a little out front. e.g Mueller told him that this is what DOJ guidelines are without making a firm commitment.

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      1. BetsyResistance‏ @betsytweets1527 May 16
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        It seems pretty unlikely that without Democratic control of both the House and Senate any of #Muellers work will matter in the next two years. It’s painfully obvious that the current #GOP are not willing regardless of what crimes are uncovered to do anything. It’s shameful.

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