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    1. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner May 1
      Replying to @BobLoeb @BradMossEsq @CevallosLaw

      Those last three paragraphs of the Scarborough piece sure seem to glass over a lot. The examples cited all actually relate to job functions and policy decisions. The Trump tweets about Scarborough (and Daniels) do not seemingly relate to any job function or policy.

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    2. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq May 1
      Replying to @chrisgeidner @BobLoeb @CevallosLaw

      The problem, at least as far as how I view the CAIR/Wuterich rulings, is that the D.C. Circuit doesn't care about the underlying content of the communication. What they look at is the overarching function; in this case, responding to media reports.

      1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
    3. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq May 1
      Replying to @BradMossEsq @chrisgeidner and

      Just as Murtha making comments to the media about Wuterich fell within the scope of Murtha's employment (regardless of what he said), Trump responding to media reports about Stormy's allegations could be construed as falling within the scope of his employment.

      2 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
    4. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq May 1
      Replying to @BradMossEsq @chrisgeidner and

      I know that not everyone agrees with my assessment. I believe @steve_vladeck has expressed some skepticism about it. @MarkSZaidEsq

      2 replies 1 retweet 5 likes
      Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner May 1
      Replying to @BradMossEsq @BobLoeb and

      Hmm. Well, I'd think you could argue that, in those cases, the court didn't need to reach the issue because the response was about something clearly within the scope of the person's job. (But I guess I'll need to read through the decisions now!)

      8:22 AM - 1 May 2018
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        2. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq May 1
          Replying to @chrisgeidner @BobLoeb and

          Here is the Murtha ruling. https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-dc-circuit/1262084.html … The Valerie Plame case had a similar ruling a bit later.

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        3. Spencer‏ @Cutupforce May 1
          Replying to @BradMossEsq @chrisgeidner and

          "As in Ballenger, the underlying conduct-interviews with the media about the pressures on American troops in the ongoing Iraq war-is unquestionably of the kind that Congressman Murtha was employed to perform as a Member of Congress." Seems distinguishable from Trump's tweet.

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        4. Bradley P. Moss‏Verified account @BradMossEsq May 1
          Replying to @Cutupforce @chrisgeidner and

          Thin thin line.

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        5. Spencer‏ @Cutupforce May 1
          Replying to @BradMossEsq @chrisgeidner and

          The broader context of Murtha's remarks were about policy: "...it is hard to fathom how Congressman Murtha's discussion of grave public policy concerns relating to the war in Iraq could ever fall outside the scope of his employment."

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        6. Spencer‏ @Cutupforce May 1
          Replying to @Cutupforce @BradMossEsq and

          So at the very least, it's would be harder to argue that Trump's tweet was within the scope of his employment.

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