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    1. Steve Vladeck‏Verified account @steve_vladeck Apr 24

      Steve Vladeck Retweeted

      I think that it's every lawyer's nightmare to file a brief that includes internal notes like these... That said, is it wrong for me to take at least some pleasure from the identity of the culprit here? (H/T: @NATSECUSA.) https://twitter.com/lachlan/status/988805989041344512 …

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      17 replies 65 retweets 316 likes
    2. Marty Lederman‏ @marty_lederman Apr 24
      Replying to @steve_vladeck

      Check out the "typo" in Gorsuch's opinion for Court today in SAS, where "recently" means "five minutes from now."

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    3. Jonathan H. Adler‏Verified account @jadler1969 Apr 24
      Replying to @marty_lederman @steve_vladeck

      ??? Only use of "recently" I can find in opinion refers to actions by Congress several years back. What did I miss?

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    4. Jonathan H. Adler‏Verified account @jadler1969 Apr 24
      Replying to @jadler1969 @marty_lederman @steve_vladeck

      NVM - found it. But now I'm really confused because Court handed down Oil States first this morning.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    5. Steve Vladeck‏Verified account @steve_vladeck Apr 24
      Replying to @jadler1969 @marty_lederman

      Steve Vladeck Retweeted Steve Vladeck

      Indeed, and out of the usual order, as I tweeted earlier: https://twitter.com/steve_vladeck/status/988781483677704192 … So Gorsuch was actually correct, although I'm surprised the Court bucked its traditional order...

      Steve Vladeck added,

      Steve VladeckVerified account @steve_vladeck
      #SCOTUS delivered the first two opinions today out of its regular order, with Thomas going _before_ Gorsuch. I suspect that's because SAS (the Gorsuch opinion) was largely dependent upon Oil States... But still, I can't remember the last time that this happened...
      2 replies 1 retweet 5 likes
    6. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner Apr 24
      Replying to @steve_vladeck @jadler1969 @marty_lederman

      We were all very confused when the Chief announced "Justice Gorsuch" after Justice Thomas had read. But, yeah, it definitely appeared that Oil States had to be released first, and they didn't want to hold SAS?

      1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
    7. Steve Vladeck‏Verified account @steve_vladeck Apr 24
      Replying to @chrisgeidner @jadler1969 @marty_lederman

      If I remember correctly, there were clues in whichever of Hollingsworth v. Perry and Windsor came out first about what the other one held. So maybe this is a reaction to concerns about such sleuthing?

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    8. Marty Lederman‏ @marty_lederman Apr 24
      Replying to @steve_vladeck @chrisgeidner @jadler1969

      No, I think it's simply a matter of having to switch because the Gorsuch opinion reads "Recently, the Court upheld" instead of "Today, the Court upholds." Thomas's OS opinion was probably supposed to be out last week and got held up.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner Apr 24
      Replying to @marty_lederman @steve_vladeck @jadler1969

      That makes sense. Here was the part from the Chief's dissent in Windsor that gave us the result in Perry ahead of time:pic.twitter.com/fOasjhjgJN

      10:46 AM - 24 Apr 2018
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        2. Marty Lederman‏ @marty_lederman Apr 24
          Replying to @chrisgeidner @steve_vladeck @jadler1969

          Yup--I was in SCOTUS cafeteria w/others who worked on the Dellinger "no standing" brief, and our jaws hit the floor when we read that in Windsor. The problem today, however, is that Gorsuch's opinion actually assumes CT's had already issued (which was likely the original plan).

          1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
        3. Steve Vladeck‏Verified account @steve_vladeck Apr 24
          Replying to @marty_lederman @chrisgeidner @jadler1969

          And there was originally supposed to be a decision day last Wednesday that got scrapped, lending further credence to the “Oil States got held up” theory (on which, to be clear, nothing of any real significance actually turns).

          2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
        4. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner Apr 24
          Replying to @steve_vladeck @marty_lederman @jadler1969

          Oh, yeah. That could have been what that was about.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Steven Mazie‏Verified account @stevenmazie Apr 24
          Replying to @chrisgeidner @steve_vladeck and

          Did this happen with Gratz/Grutter, or the 10 commandments cases?

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        6. Steve Vladeck‏Verified account @steve_vladeck Apr 24
          Replying to @stevenmazie @chrisgeidner and

          I wasn't as obsessive a #SCOTUS watcher back then (Gratz & Grutter came down when I was a 2L), so have no idea. But it's odd that they'd break what seems like a strong norm for order of opinions just to avoid such a silly (and vanishing) "problem."

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        7. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner Apr 24
          Replying to @steve_vladeck @stevenmazie and

          I was a 1L. And, yes, I agree! Here's my totally random and new brainstormed theory: Maybe Gorsuch's dissent in Oil States is what held Oil States up?!

          0 replies 1 retweet 6 likes
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        2. Mike Sacks‏Verified account @MikeSacksEsq Apr 24
          Replying to @chrisgeidner @marty_lederman and

          Mike Sacks Retweeted Mike Sacks

          Alito did the same: https://twitter.com/mikesacksesq/status/349892585306849281?s=21 … But whichever decision went first on that day woulda surely acted as the spoiler for the other

          Mike Sacks added,

          Mike SacksVerified account @MikeSacksEsq
          To get a #Prop8 Decision preview, control-F "Perry' in #DOMA decision: http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/12pdf/12-307_g2bh.pdf … #scotus
          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. Steve Vladeck‏Verified account @steve_vladeck Apr 24
          Replying to @MikeSacksEsq @chrisgeidner and

          That’s the one I was remembering! Thanks...

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Mike Sacks‏Verified account @MikeSacksEsq Apr 24
          Replying to @steve_vladeck @chrisgeidner and

          Too bad link from 2013 is now broken. Here’s the relevant passage from Alito:pic.twitter.com/61PPVmdpyJ

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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