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    1. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative Mar 6

      Julian Sanchez Retweeted Boing Boing

      Torn between a desire to see this whiny suit fail as it deserves to and the schadenfreude I’d experience seeing Disney host on its own copyright overreach petard.https://twitter.com/boingboing/status/971110084095954945 …

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      Boing BoingVerified account @BoingBoing
      🤔 French graphic designer claims @Disney copied his work for @StarWars ads https://boingboing.net/2018/03/06/french-graphic-designer-is-ups.html … pic.twitter.com/1dmVe6qImp
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    2. Eric Geller‏Verified account @ericgeller Mar 6
      Replying to @normative

      you don't think Disney's artist copied this person's work?

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    3. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative Mar 6
      Replying to @ericgeller

      Probably. And that’s fine.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Eric Geller‏Verified account @ericgeller Mar 6
      Replying to @normative

      Why?

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    5. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative Mar 6
      Replying to @ericgeller

      Because it’s ridiculous to enforce copyright at that level of abstraction.

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    6. Eric Geller‏Verified account @ericgeller Mar 6
      Replying to @normative

      I'd encourage you to look closely at the comparison images. It's really not abstract.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative Mar 6
      Replying to @ericgeller

      I did. I think that’s fine and the original designer isn’t owed a cent.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Eric Geller‏Verified account @ericgeller Mar 6
      Replying to @normative

      It looks like a pretty blatant rip-off, so I disagree, but okay.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    9. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative Mar 6
      Replying to @ericgeller

      It is a blatant rip-off. And that’s fine. So is Star Wars, the sources are just a little more varied.

      3 replies 1 retweet 1 like
    10. Eric Geller‏Verified account @ericgeller Mar 6
      Replying to @normative

      Star Wars is a pastiche. This is a photocopy.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner Mar 6
      Replying to @ericgeller @normative

      This is a very weird Twitter conversation. (I don't understand what Julian is saying.)

      12:25 PM - 6 Mar 2018
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        2. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative Mar 6
          Replying to @chrisgeidner @ericgeller

          What has been “copied” is the general compositional idea of color-filtered images seen through block sans-serif lettering. That’s too broad an idea to have a legal monopoly on.

          3 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
        3. Eric Geller‏Verified account @ericgeller Mar 6
          Replying to @normative @chrisgeidner

          It's not a general compositional idea.

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        4. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative Mar 6
          Replying to @ericgeller @chrisgeidner

          Then what else has been copied? The images are totally different. The words are different. The font looks the same, but is almost certainly not the artist’s IP. The similarity in look is entirely a function of the color grades and the idea of sceening the image on the letters.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Eric Geller‏Verified account @ericgeller Mar 6
          Replying to @normative @chrisgeidner

          The concept, plus the execution, is identical except for the brand-specific elements (Star Wars). It's like a Powerpoint template where the only thing changed is the slide text. All the design work is the same. I don't see how that's some generic similarity.

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        6. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative Mar 6
          Replying to @ericgeller @chrisgeidner

          But the “brand specific elements” are most of the image. The “concept” is indeed the same. The designer should have no right to the concept.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Eric Geller‏Verified account @ericgeller Mar 6
          Replying to @normative @chrisgeidner

          The brand-specific elements are most of the image in a plug-and-play sense. It doesn't take any creative effort to insert them where they are. The creative effort of object placement, orientation, size, etc. was done by the original artist.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative Mar 6
          Replying to @ericgeller @chrisgeidner

          But the placement and size of the central design elements are... not the same. I guess I’ll give you orientation, but I’m not sure putting the head on top represents an act of creativity meriting legal monopoly protection.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. Eric Geller‏Verified account @ericgeller Mar 6
          Replying to @normative @chrisgeidner

          the placement and size are almost indistinguishable and IMO close enough for purposes of an infringement claim

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        1. Thin Online Anonymity‏ @puckthecat1 Mar 6
          Replying to @chrisgeidner @ericgeller @normative

          All art is derivative, and he doesn't think the derivative nature of the poster justifies a lawsuit.

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