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    1. Joe Dunman‏ @JoeDunman Jan 10

      Joe Dunman Retweeted Metro Weekly

      I hate to be that guy but straight people will also be protected because they also have a sexual orientation and could (hypothetically) be the subject of discrimination.https://twitter.com/metroweekly/status/951234962115776512 …

      Joe Dunman added,

      Metro Weekly @metroweekly
      After a historic vote, LGBTQ people in a small Kentucky city will now be protected from discrimination: https://buff.ly/2D39R3T  pic.twitter.com/tGwj0Cxt13
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    2. Joe Dunman‏ @JoeDunman Jan 10

      Absolutely these protections are important for the most common targets of discrimination, but don't forget that they cover everybody. They're not "special rights."

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    3. Joe Dunman‏ @JoeDunman Jan 10

      A lot of opposition to these protections is furthered by framing them narrowly. When you frame them accurately, a lot of the hostility diminishes.

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    4. Joe Dunman‏ @JoeDunman Jan 10

      Race as a protected classification covers everyone because everyone has a race. Sexual orientation protection covers everyone because everyone has an orientation (even if we lack the words to describe it sometimes).

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    5. Joe Dunman‏ @JoeDunman Jan 10

      I hate it when judges and other people refer to minority groups as "protected classes." No, the protected class is the basis for the discrimination against those minority groups, not the groups themselves.

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    6. Joe Dunman‏ @JoeDunman Jan 10

      We are all protected by protected classifications. They make discrimination against anyone on the basis of those classifications illegal. That's why they're good.

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      Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner Jan 10
      Replying to @JoeDunman

      Yes, and. Enh? :shruggie: I both get exactly what you're saying and think it's totally reasonable to say that sexual orientation nondiscrimination laws protect LGB people and gender identity nondiscrimination laws protect trans people.

      3:46 PM - 10 Jan 2018
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        2. Joe Dunman‏ @JoeDunman Jan 10
          Replying to @chrisgeidner

          I'm speaking mostly as a civil rights teacher in eastern Kentucky. Emphasizing the full scope really diminishes the initial gut-reaction hostility to these protections.

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        3. Joe Dunman‏ @JoeDunman Jan 10
          Replying to @JoeDunman @chrisgeidner

          A lot of folks really have no idea how these laws work at all. All they see are headlines saying "law protects LGBT" and they think it is some kind of special treatment.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner Jan 10
          Replying to @JoeDunman

          Yeah, I definitely remember a point when I was like, “Only describe things as providing sexual orientation protections,” bc, yes, that’s what they are (in that case). But, I think the purpose is to protect those who are most often discriminated against, so, it fits ...

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        5. Joe Dunman‏ @JoeDunman Jan 10
          Replying to @chrisgeidner

          I acknowledged in my thread that the practical effect is mostly one-sided, and it's not *wrong*, but it's not particularly helpful, either. Again, as an educator, not as somebody already hip to the efforts and the language.

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        6. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner Jan 10
          Replying to @JoeDunman

          Journalists also educate, and I’ve learned over time how overly legalistic language can decrease the knowledge people are taking away from articles — or even scare them away altogether. I think it’s a balancing act. Sometimes, you need to do both.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Brutus‏ @oathofbrutus Jan 10
          Replying to @chrisgeidner @JoeDunman

          It seems pretty doable to write "Smallville passed a law saying that employers cannot discriminate based on sexual orientation. This means people cannot be fired because they are gay or because they are straight."

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        8. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner Jan 10
          Replying to @oathofbrutus @JoeDunman

          Thanks. I know. I've written about 3,000 articles doing so.

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        9. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner Jan 10
          Replying to @chrisgeidner @oathofbrutus @JoeDunman

          (Also, I literally wrote, "Sometimes, you need to do both," in the tweet to which you were replying.)

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        1. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner Jan 10
          Replying to @chrisgeidner @JoeDunman

          I guess I'm OK with criticizing *judicial opinions* that conflate such descriptions.

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