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    Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 17 Dec 2017

    Chris Geidner Retweeted Eric Segall

    Why do people think this? I honestly don’t get it. There are more liberals willing this idea into existence by virtue of their saying it than there are Jeanine Pirro and that guy in a bad-fitting suit on Fox News saying it.https://twitter.com/espinsegall/status/942448758003990528 …

    Chris Geidner added,

    Eric Segall @espinsegall
    The Sunday before Trump fires Mueller many smart folks think. That's all. https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/942447996255563779 …
    9:42 AM - 17 Dec 2017
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      2. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 17 Dec 2017

        Chris Geidner Retweeted Jon Favreau

        I think this is true, insofar as it describes the aims, as we have seen them in part, but I don’t think it’s the whole story, either, or necessarily correct as to its results:https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/942450699907895298 …

        Chris Geidner added,

        Jon FavreauVerified account @jonfavs
        Replying to @chrisgeidner
        Yeah, I don’t think he needs to fire Mueller to achieve his goal of delegitimizing Mueller’s findings by crying partisan witch hunt. That’s the easier move for Trump and just as effective IMO.
        4 replies 18 retweets 58 likes
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      3. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 17 Dec 2017

        Of course, I am not saying it could never happen. Trump could, in the future, try to fire Mueller (and succeed if he was willing to go as far as he needed to go in order to do so). I’m the last person to totally rule ~out~ a Trump action.

        4 replies 11 retweets 45 likes
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      4. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 17 Dec 2017

        Chris Geidner Retweeted Kyle Cheney

        But, there are several things pointing against this being something happening in the near future. First, it is the point Ty Cobb has been most consistent about over time:https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/942201404718026752 …

        Chris Geidner added,

        Kyle CheneyVerified account @kyledcheney
        White House lawyer Ty Cobb declined comment about the specific issue but reiterated a firing isn't in the offing. “As the White House has repeatedly and emphatically said for months, there is no consideration at the White House of terminating the special counsel,” Cobb said.
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        3 replies 15 retweets 42 likes
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      5. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 17 Dec 2017

        Second, Rosenstein just said he sees no cause to fire Mueller, so it would be technically complicated from Trump to do so — and that, meaning that to do so would entail shutting down others’ careers as well — would, I still believe, carry a steep political price.

        10 replies 17 retweets 63 likes
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      6. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 17 Dec 2017

        Third, I see one key sign in the Trump campaign lawyer’s letter: Why mention the Fourth Amendment? The letter raises it, which is, primarily, about trying to exclude evidence at trial/from prosecution — which isn’t an issue if you’re setting up a Mueller firing.

        7 replies 14 retweets 68 likes
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      7. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 17 Dec 2017

        Oh, and just a minor fourth point: Remember that line from the NYT story about Pirro eventually going on too long on an anti-Mueller “screed” in a meeting with Trump even for him and him just walking out? That.https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/09/us/politics/donald-trump-president.html …

        4 replies 18 retweets 65 likes
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      8. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 17 Dec 2017

        In any event, my point is not to say that Trump will not ever fire Robert Mueller — that’s always been a possibility. My point is that I do not see anyone making any actual argument that has convinced me that this is something currently being considered.

        15 replies 24 retweets 99 likes
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      9. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 17 Dec 2017

        Finally, if you’ve not read it: My story about the Trump campaign lawyer’s Saturday letter regarding transition emails, the career GSA lawyer’s comments to me, and a late-night Special Counsel’s Office statement.https://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisgeidner/the-trump-campaign-claims-a-federal-office-illegally-turned …

        6 replies 44 retweets 88 likes
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      10. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 17 Dec 2017

        Chris Geidner Retweeted Mark Knoller

        Trump, on this topic:https://twitter.com/markknoller/status/942512639216844800 …

        Chris Geidner added,

        Mark KnollerVerified account @markknoller
        "No, I'm not," says Pres Trump, asked if he's considering firing special counsel Robert Mueller. Responded to questions on return to WH from Camp David.
        6 replies 4 retweets 22 likes
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      11. End of conversation
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      2. Joe Mattes‏ @JoeMattes 17 Dec 2017
        Replying to @chrisgeidner @dandrezner

        “Liberals willing this idea into existence by virtue of saying it”. C’mon... that’s pretty weak.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 17 Dec 2017
        Replying to @JoeMattes @dandrezner

        Read it again. It’s a much more nuanced sentence than that.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 17 Dec 2017
        Replying to @chrisgeidner @JoeMattes @dandrezner

        Chris Geidner Retweeted Chris Geidner

        See:https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/942484528303570945 …

        Chris Geidner added,

        Chris GeidnerVerified account @chrisgeidner
        Replying to @espinsegall
        I didn't say that liberals are willing it into existence. At all. What I wrote, and you RTed right there, is that there are more liberals saying that this is in the works than there are conservatives doing so. I don't think either is doing it, b/c as you state, Trump will decide.
        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Sean Hecht‏ @seanhecht 17 Dec 2017
        Replying to @chrisgeidner @JoeMattes @dandrezner

        Seems much more likely he'll fire Rosenstein- which would be very dangerous & possibly crippling for Mueller investigation

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      6. End of conversation
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      2. Lisatheeditor‏ @Lisatheeditor 17 Dec 2017
        Replying to @chrisgeidner

        Er, "liberals" don't have the power to will ideas into existence. If we did, I would be chanting "Trump resigns, Trump resigns" every waking moment of the day.

        2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
      3. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 17 Dec 2017
        Replying to @Lisatheeditor

        Chris Geidner Retweeted Chris Geidner

        Again, as I've said to others, that's not what I'm saying. Read it.https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/942484528303570945 …

        Chris Geidner added,

        Chris GeidnerVerified account @chrisgeidner
        Replying to @espinsegall
        I didn't say that liberals are willing it into existence. At all. What I wrote, and you RTed right there, is that there are more liberals saying that this is in the works than there are conservatives doing so. I don't think either is doing it, b/c as you state, Trump will decide.
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      2. T-Covfefe‏ @MyPlace4U 17 Dec 2017
        Replying to @chrisgeidner

        Whitehouse said yesterday Trump has no plans to fire Mueller.

        1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
      3. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 17 Dec 2017
        Replying to @MyPlace4U

        I think you mean White House, not Sen. Whitehouse. Assuming so, yes, I make that very point later in the thread.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
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      2. Jon Favreau‏Verified account @jonfavs 17 Dec 2017
        Replying to @chrisgeidner

        Yeah, I don’t think he needs to fire Mueller to achieve his goal of delegitimizing Mueller’s findings by crying partisan witch hunt. That’s the easier move for Trump and just as effective IMO.

        26 replies 22 retweets 173 likes
      3. Amanda in the Pan‏ @fantabulizer 17 Dec 2017
        Replying to @jonfavs @chrisgeidner

        This analysis implies Trump is capable of thinking rationally about the situation and choosing the best path through. He is a walking ball of id. He will do whatever suits him in the moment.

        2 replies 2 retweets 29 likes
      4. Vanessa Doha Pearl Steck‏ @vanessasteck 17 Dec 2017
        Replying to @fantabulizer @jonfavs @chrisgeidner

        even if trump decides to fire mueller, he cant just do it. he has to either get rosenstein to do it (he won't, so he has to fire rosenstein, then the next person, etc) or he has to literally call in federal marshals to remove mueller. so there's time for others to step in. i hope

        1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
      5. Amanda in the Pan‏ @fantabulizer 17 Dec 2017
        Replying to @vanessasteck @jonfavs @chrisgeidner

        What you are describing is the Saturday Night Massacre. It's happened before. It could easily happen again.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Vanessa Doha Pearl Steck‏ @vanessasteck 17 Dec 2017
        Replying to @fantabulizer @jonfavs @chrisgeidner

        Yes I understand the Saturday night massacre. I just think there are reasons it’s less likely right this second- my point was there is time

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