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    1. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
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      Friedland: What limited review do you say is allowed? / Flentje: Bona fide and legit. / Friedland: There are allegations of bad faith here.

      2 replies 9 retweets 40 likes
    2. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
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      Flentje: Review should be limited to the four corners of the document. And, even then, only if a party in the US with standing to bring.

      1 reply 4 retweets 8 likes
    3. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
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      Flentje raises standing issues, but Canby notes air cases. / Flentje: A 3rd party can't challenge visa revocations.

      2 replies 3 retweets 12 likes
    4. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
      Replying to @chrisgeidner

      Clifton jumps in: Yes, they can. Why can't Washington, re: its schools, do so.

      1 reply 2 retweets 11 likes
    5. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
      Replying to @chrisgeidner

      Flentje: Goes to parens patriae, says that Washington can't bring under that theory. / Clifton says wife in Din. Scholars in Mandel.

      1 reply 2 retweets 8 likes
    6. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
      Replying to @chrisgeidner

      Flentje goes back to the "right of the state on behalf of the people." / Clifton says, what about the universities?

      3 replies 5 retweets 12 likes
    7. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
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      Flentje: What is the constitutional interest of the university? / Clifton: In Din, she was claiming loss of consortium, but it was his visa.

      1 reply 2 retweets 6 likes
    8. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
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      Friedland: What about Pierce v. Society of Sisters? / Flentje: The university was challenging a state law that affected it students.

      1 reply 2 retweets 11 likes
    9. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
      Replying to @chrisgeidner

      Friedland: Why can't we reach the merits here? / Flentje: A state entity can't assert these kind of rights.

      1 reply 2 retweets 5 likes
    10. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
      Replying to @chrisgeidner

      Flentje adds that the order doesn't discriminate on the basis of religion, and no equal protection problems.

      1 reply 6 retweets 8 likes
      Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017

      Canby: Could the president ban Muslims? / Flentje: That's not this. / Judges: Answer. / Flentje: A US citizen w a connection.

      3:25 PM - 7 Feb 2017
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        2. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
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          Friedland: What's the purpose of your standing argument? / Flentje repeats standing standards. There are plenty of cases w people affected.

          1 reply 6 retweets 7 likes
        3. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
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          Flentje: "I'm not sure I'm convincing the court (on standing)," so moving on to arg the TRO is overbroad.

          1 reply 10 retweets 16 likes
        4. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
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          Friedland: States are claiming EO violates Estab Clause. If so, isn't it facially invalid.

          1 reply 8 retweets 11 likes
        5. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
          Replying to @chrisgeidner

          Flentje: Scope of injunction should be limited to the specific claims advanced by the states.

          1 reply 3 retweets 4 likes
        6. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
          Replying to @chrisgeidner

          Flentje: Refugee provision involves people who have never been here, for example. Court should immediately stay that portion.

          1 reply 4 retweets 7 likes
        7. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
          Replying to @chrisgeidner

          NOW UP: Noah Purcell, Washington solicitor general.

          1 reply 8 retweets 13 likes
        8. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
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          Purcell: Appealability question. / Clifton: Why should we care? Are you suggesting mandamus is the only route?

          1 reply 5 retweets 6 likes
        9. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
          Replying to @chrisgeidner

          Clifton: Why shouldn't we view this as an injunction? / Purcell: This fairly limited. In SEIU case, for ex, the order was four months.

          1 reply 4 retweets 8 likes
        10. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
          Replying to @chrisgeidner

          Purcell: If ct treats this as appealable order, then this is what will be appealed. If it goes back, then we'd get a more full PI decision.

          1 reply 7 retweets 6 likes
        11. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
          Replying to @chrisgeidner

          Purcell: Going toward the merits, I'd first focus on the lack of irreparable harm. The EO itself caused the irreparable harm.

          2 replies 16 retweets 26 likes
        12. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
          Replying to @chrisgeidner

          Clifton: What's the harm to the state of Washington? / Purcell: Stranded overseas, unable to visit families, tax revenue.

          2 replies 27 retweets 30 likes
        13. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
          Replying to @chrisgeidner

          Friedland: If we reject parens patriae, can we consider broad harms or only proprietary harms?

          2 replies 6 retweets 6 likes
        14. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
          Replying to @chrisgeidner

          Purcell: Maybe those would move to the public interest weighing under the standards.

          1 reply 6 retweets 5 likes
        15. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
          Replying to @chrisgeidner

          Purcell: Establish Clause violations themselves show irreparable injury. In sum, fed gov't hasn't made its showing to stay TRO.

          1 reply 11 retweets 18 likes
        16. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
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          Canby: What about DOJ's four corners argument? / Purcell: No. See Din / Cardenas.

          1 reply 4 retweets 4 likes
        17. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
          Replying to @chrisgeidner

          Clifton: How many affected are people w Washington residency, etc. / Purcell: At pleading stage, we allege thousands. Notes LPR inclusion...

          1 reply 9 retweets 8 likes
        18. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
          Replying to @chrisgeidner

          ... initially, and they've changed position. Until they change the order — they can't just say it doesn't apply.

          1 reply 6 retweets 5 likes
        19. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
          Replying to @chrisgeidner

          Clifton: Why shouldn't we limit the TRO to those clearly? / Purcell: Doesn't solve Estab or EP harms.

          1 reply 7 retweets 10 likes
        20. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
          Replying to @chrisgeidner

          Purcell: Also doesn't address people here affected due to having people abroad. Gov't hasn't addressed how it would implement.

          1 reply 6 retweets 10 likes
        21. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
          Replying to @chrisgeidner

          Friedland: Should Larson or Lemon apply? / Purcell: Larson.

          1 reply 4 retweets 4 likes
        22. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
          Replying to @chrisgeidner

          Friedland: If we agree about Larson, is your EP claim redundant? / Purcell: Basically.

          2 replies 6 retweets 5 likes
        23. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
          Replying to @chrisgeidner

          Clifton: What percentage of Muslims worldwide are from those seven countries? I see about 15%. / Purcell: To prove religious disc ...

          3 replies 14 retweets 10 likes
        24. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
          Replying to @chrisgeidner

          ... we just have to show desire to harm. / Clifton: How? / Purcell: Intent. The public statements from president and advisers.

          2 replies 17 retweets 17 likes
        25. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
          Replying to @chrisgeidner

          Purcell: You just have to show desire. / Clifton: But, it's such a low percentage? They've determined those countries are of concern.

          1 reply 8 retweets 4 likes
        26. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
          Replying to @chrisgeidner

          Clifton: Do you consider that religious discrim? / Purcell: No, not at all. / Clifton: Then, how is this a violation?

          1 reply 4 retweets 4 likes
        27. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
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          Purcell: Exact action can be constitutional at times and not at others. / Clifton: Is this that ban? / Purcell: No, it doesn't have to be.

          1 reply 8 retweets 6 likes
        28. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
          Replying to @chrisgeidner

          Clifton: You can allege anything! I don't have to believe it. / Friedland: You've submitted exhibits, haven't you? / Purcell: Yes.

          3 replies 14 retweets 24 likes
        29. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
          Replying to @chrisgeidner

          Clifton: You can't say you need more time, you brought the TRO. I don't think allegations cut it at this stage.

          1 reply 8 retweets 12 likes
        30. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
          Replying to @chrisgeidner

          Canby: Who has burden here? / Purcell: DOJ, b/c they're seeking a stay.

          2 replies 6 retweets 14 likes
        31. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 7 Feb 2017
          Replying to @chrisgeidner

          Purcell: Again, standard should be mandamus std. Because in neither form nor substance nor intent was TRO supposed to be PI.

          1 reply 6 retweets 8 likes
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