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    1. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 27 Jan 2017
      Replying to @DLind

      I'd say that's a dangerously optimistic reading of today's order, and potentially very harmful.

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    2. Dara Lind‏Verified account @DLind 27 Jan 2017
      Replying to @chrisgeidner

      it might not be the way things shake out ultimately, depending on regs issued pursuant to this order. But for the moment yes.

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    3. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 27 Jan 2017
      Replying to @DLind

      No. Visitors to those countries are also implicated. Read (12)(A)(i).

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    4. Dara Lind‏Verified account @DLind 27 Jan 2017
      Replying to @chrisgeidner

      So your reading is that "aliens from" these countries, in the EO, is the same as "visitors to" same countries in the statute?

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    5. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 27 Jan 2017
      Replying to @DLind

      The fact it just says (a)(12) and nothing more in the order leaves ambiguity as to the definition of "from," yes.

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      Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 27 Jan 2017
      Replying to @chrisgeidner @DLind

      There's enough ambiguity there that I am very uncomfortable saying (12)(A)(i) folks are definitely not included under the EO.

      10:49 PM - 27 Jan 2017
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        2. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 27 Jan 2017
          Replying to @chrisgeidner @DLind

          Additionally, under (12)(D), the DHS secretary could change his list, which would change this list.

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        3. Dara Lind‏Verified account @DLind 27 Jan 2017
          Replying to @chrisgeidner

          So do you think it's equally foolhardy to tell ANY foreign national it's safe to leave/reenter US?

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        4. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 27 Jan 2017
          Replying to @DLind

          I think it's irresponsible of a journalist to ALL CAPS claim that someone is definitely safe to travel, when you do not know that.

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        5. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 27 Jan 2017
          Replying to @chrisgeidner @DLind

          You cannot know that they would be fine. You ~could~ say a narrow reading of the order would not apply to them, as things stand now.

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        6. Dara Lind‏Verified account @DLind 27 Jan 2017
          Replying to @chrisgeidner

          The lawyers I'm in touch with are pretty confident. I will delete it in the interest of not appearing to give legal advice.

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        7. Chris Geidner‏Verified account @chrisgeidner 27 Jan 2017
          Replying to @DLind

          Unless the lawyers are Trump appointees in DOJ or are named Don McGahn, I'd think that best.

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