Our ancestors have always known that free sexuality would lead to a bad outcome for everyone. In our hubris, we have decided we know better and started an experiment with consequences that are beginning to show.
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Hence the males of lower genetic value are forced to become suicidal, homosexual, transsexual, homicidal, a blue-pilled beta or a cuckold, all of which manifest in males much more often than females.
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Much of what we see today is an inevitability of the incentives set up the last decades. If we continue on this path, it is clear that, without rewarding the subservient male with procreation, civilization cannot be upheld and we will revert to a more primitive state of mankind.
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While feminism pretends to fight against male toxicity, it is actually encouraging it. After all, if given free choice, women will choose the meanest, baddest and most dominant. No wonder that 50 Shades is the book that has sold the most copies in human history.
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In contrast, monogamy pacifies male "toxicity" and leads, applied consequently over long periods of time, to diminished sexual dimorphism. Monogamy was actually a progressive idea. Today's "progressives" are really regressive. Big irony of our times.
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@Blacklabellogic My thoughts on natural vs. sexual selectionShow this thread
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I don’t like tall guys or hairy ones What now Chimeracide, what now?
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I never said you did. Men are taller and stronger than women, yet some women are taller and stronger than some men. There is no contradiction.
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Your idea that every woman must have been motivated by pure instinct to select THE STRONGEST, TALLEST, HIGH T CHAD. Is a little redundant. It’s rare that women make mate choices on outward characteristics alone.
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I didn't say every woman. Just enough women to make being short such a negative that short men have more success by omitting their height in dating profiles.
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Women don’t like short men because its not fashionable. Its the same with men not liking fat women or dark skinned women. Its purely based on society’s idea of masculinity & femininity. And they are made up. Change society’s idea of masculinity & short men will be more attractive
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Its like how men with smaller penises were considered more attractive in ancient Rome. They probably thought shorter men were hotter too
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Most Important male traits: full hair and beard. lol. Wealth and power didnt make the list?
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Read more carefully. Wealth and power fall under natural selection. Their importance has diminished in favor of sexual selection. Women will bear Chad's babies (who cannot commit) in their 20s, then as a single mother try secure a millionaire betabux in their 30s.
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1/ I'm not sure whether the “Women are basically selecting for the strongest caveman without any actual fighting” is important for your overall argument or not but... Without the actual fighting happening, I'm not sure that it is clear that women are selecting the best fighters.
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2/ Organisms (including human females) seem to (often unconsciously) use certain ‘signals’ to make decisions (including choosing a mate). Those signals can be a lie. I.e, there can be deception involved. Although sometimes a signal can be more reliable. Ex: costly signaling.
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3/ (Although there are other dynamics that can be going on, such as runaway sexual selection.)
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4/ But the use of the signals by a human female just increases the probability of her genes getting passed to the next generations. But the probability isn't 100%. And even if the signal is costly, it often isn't 100% reliable.
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5/ But without the actual fighting taking place, and being important for fitness: #1: female preferences could drift or disappear/break, #2: the deception isn't filtered out.
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When have these NOT been genetic?
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