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    1. Ross Tucker‏Verified account @Scienceofsport 19 Feb 2020
      Replying to @Scienceofsport @spikesandspokes and

      …means that transwomen at 12 months, after T suppression, have average grip strength 40kg (see left figure) compared to average in women who NOT taking testosterone (T0 of the right figure, the proper comparison) of 33kg. Thus, transwomen are 21% stronger than non-doping women.pic.twitter.com/5qHzOB5xYO

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    2. Ross Tucker‏Verified account @Scienceofsport 19 Feb 2020
      Replying to @Scienceofsport @spikesandspokes and

      I think the analysis looking at FTM improvements has implications in the clinical world, but for sport, context is whether policies requiring T reduction remove the normal M vs F advantage. Hence, look at transwomen at T12 vs transmen at T0, and it clearly does not @FondOfBeetles

      3 replies 5 retweets 47 likes
    3. Tommy Lundberg‏ @TLexercise 20 Feb 2020
      Replying to @Scienceofsport @spikesandspokes and

      This is how that type of comparison looked in our study on isometric knee extension strength and Quads volume. The confidence intervals do not even overlap between TW vs. Cis-women or TM at baseline, so quite marked differences.pic.twitter.com/llaypxKlwB

      2 replies 3 retweets 46 likes
    4. Ross Tucker‏Verified account @Scienceofsport 20 Feb 2020
      Replying to @TLexercise @spikesandspokes and

      Spot on!

      1 reply 0 retweets 14 likes
    5. Chase Strangio‏Verified account @chasestrangio 20 Feb 2020
      Replying to @Scienceofsport @TLexercise and

      I am not keeping track of this fully but notably, either the age of the trans women is older or not listed and the regulation we are looking at targets T suppressed teens. Also, as a matter of law, even assuming some differences, that does not justify exclusion.

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    6. Ross Tucker‏Verified account @Scienceofsport 20 Feb 2020
      Replying to @chasestrangio @TLexercise and

      Before I respond specifically, I just want to clarify this: “regulation we are looking at targets T suppressed teens”. The IOC regs for sport that I’m talking about cover all athletes, and it’s adults in sport that I am particularly talking about. Are we at cross purposes here?

      2 replies 0 retweets 21 likes
    7. Ross Tucker‏Verified account @Scienceofsport 20 Feb 2020
      Replying to @Scienceofsport @chasestrangio and

      With respects to the broader principle, the separation of humans into M & W categories in sport is the default position, because the evidence of huge advantage is so strong. Without separation, women would vanish from elite sport entirely. So there is already “exclusion” of one

      2 replies 5 retweets 44 likes
    8. Ross Tucker‏Verified account @Scienceofsport 20 Feb 2020
      Replying to @Scienceofsport @chasestrangio and

      …population (males, who benefit from T/androgenization) so that another group (women, without this benefit) are “protected” in terms of fairness & welfare. The debate is whether that default exclusion should be changed or not to accommodate people, so I would suggest that the

      1 reply 1 retweet 17 likes
    9. Ross Tucker‏Verified account @Scienceofsport 20 Feb 2020
      Replying to @Scienceofsport @chasestrangio and

      …burden of proof, or the onus, as it were, is to show that people who once DID obtain the Testosterone/androgen benefit do not still have that benefit after transition. This study suggests that they do retain a big part of it, notwithstanding that the ages of people studied are

      2 replies 1 retweet 22 likes
    10. Ross Tucker‏Verified account @Scienceofsport 20 Feb 2020
      Replying to @Scienceofsport @chasestrangio and

      …not immediately overlapping. There is no a priori hypothesis for why the change should be greater in younger adults (in fact, I can think of reasons why it wouldn’t be different in athletes). So really, the issue is: is there enough evidence to change the status quo?

      2 replies 1 retweet 13 likes
      Chase Strangio‏Verified account @chasestrangio 20 Feb 2020
      Replying to @Scienceofsport @TLexercise and

      Well you don’t account at all for suppressed or blocked puberty. Not all girls who are trans go through puberty in their assigned sex.

      3:23 AM - 20 Feb 2020
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        2. Ross Tucker‏Verified account @Scienceofsport 20 Feb 2020
          Replying to @chasestrangio @TLexercise and

          Indeed, but the policy holds, does it not, that if the puberty is blocked, there is no issue? Which means that again, the study we’ve discussed before is moot.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Chase Strangio‏Verified account @chasestrangio 20 Feb 2020
          Replying to @Scienceofsport @TLexercise and

          No the policy is either chromosomes or birth certificate controls. I am just pointing out that in US regulation it is not grounded in logic or hormones.

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        2. Sebastian Armstrong‏ @spikesandspokes 20 Feb 2020
          Replying to @chasestrangio @Scienceofsport and

          Is that what the rules require? No. If you want to advocate for puberty suppression as the standard, go ahead, but that doesn’t back the current rules.

          1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
        3. Chase Strangio‏Verified account @chasestrangio 20 Feb 2020
          Replying to @spikesandspokes @Scienceofsport and

          The point is that the blanket assumptions don’t account for the variations.

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        2. Arielle Scarcella‏Verified account @ArielleScarcell 20 Feb 2020
          Replying to @chasestrangio @Scienceofsport and

          For me if they don’t go through male puberty I think it’s fine to allow them to compete

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        3. E R I N ⁷‏ @bruhjoon 20 Feb 2020
          Replying to @ArielleScarcell @chasestrangio and

          I agree. Although that's a small portion of the trans community, especially the mtf community.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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        1. Nemesis Online ☭⃠  🌿 ☢️  🏛‏ @nemesis_online 20 Feb 2020
          Replying to @chasestrangio @Scienceofsport and

          It’s weird how these girls’ bodies know to go through male puberty unless put on blockers. How do their bodies know what sex they were wrongly and arbitrarily assigned?

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        1. Daytime Pub Smell #Reply Deboosted‏ @DaytimePubSmell 20 Feb 2020
          Replying to @chasestrangio @Scienceofsport and

          But female puberty *does* confer a major disadvantage by changing the pelvis significantly. Perhaps the 'open' class should include females who didn't have such a disadvantage effectively removed by drugs?pic.twitter.com/u3FvC2wgsO

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        1. citizen of...somewhere in ontario, née b'dos‏ @banreportcards 20 Feb 2020
          Replying to @chasestrangio @Scienceofsport and

          Girls who are trans? You mean boys.

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