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Charles Murray

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Husband, father, social scientist, writer, Madisonian. Or maybe right-wing ideologue, pseudoscientist, evil. Opinions differ.

Burkittsville, MD
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    1. Charles Murray‏ @charlesmurray Oct 20

      People are asking what happened with my daughter. She got in. She had many strengths. She wrote a brilliant essay on what it's like to grow up half-Asian in the U.S. (so much for Dad's advice). She was a legacy candidate, which counterbalanced the too-many-Asians problem.

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    2. Charles Murray‏ @charlesmurray Oct 20

      But I will add another personal thought: I supported all four of my children in whatever school they wanted to attend. But if I had children applying today, I would urge them to go for the honors program in a good state university & stay away from the elite schools. As a Dad.

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      Charles Murray‏ @charlesmurray Oct 20

      I am convinced that education at almost all of the elite schools is seriously broken, and that my kids would genuinely get more of what they need from college at a good state school far from the Northeast or West Coast.

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        2. Tibo‏ @TiboDMZ Oct 24
          Replying to @charlesmurray

          Is it really broken ? Haven't ivies undergrad always been a place for the selection and social grooming of potential and current young elites ? Or is it that contrary to the old literature focus, today social theory program is no so much useless as harmful ?

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        3. Charles Murray‏ @charlesmurray Oct 25
          Replying to @TiboDMZ

          Harvard's curriculum in 1961-65 was still just fine. None of the bullshit had come on campus yet. Great scholars teaching the best that had been said and written.

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        2. Gregory Cochran‏ @gcochran99 Oct 23
          Replying to @charlesmurray

          I came to the same conclusion, more or less. In 1970.

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        3. Charles Murray‏ @charlesmurray Oct 24
          Replying to @gcochran99

          Your's was a youthful impulse, mine a decision borne of mature consideration.

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        1. John Barry‏ @CardsFanTX Oct 20
          Replying to @charlesmurray

          You surely know better than I, but my sense is that Postmodernist insanity permeates virtually every state school now, too. It has been allowed free rein for far too long, spreading like a virus to all corners.

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        2. John Mauer‏ @redforged42 Oct 20
          Replying to @charlesmurray

          Curious if technical schools are included in that, like MIT and Cal Tech?

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        3. Anonamom‏ @Anonamom7B Oct 20
          Replying to @redforged42 @charlesmurray

          MIT is starting to cave, though. Take a look at their recent hires and policies. It's eye-opening.

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        1. truth‏ @dreamon000 Oct 20
          Replying to @charlesmurray @franginter

          Sums up why there’s a big problempic.twitter.com/uAiaa3t6yV

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        1. Eric Rasmusen‏ @erasmuse Oct 20
          Replying to @charlesmurray

          For the liberal arts, Hillsdale and the Baylor Great Books and Honors programs are good. Probably some state schools have similar programs. I'm a Yale man, but I told my daughter not to apply to Yale. U. of Chicago is still good.

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        1. Ann Smith‏ @Gogoette Oct 20
          Replying to @charlesmurray

          Hillsdale College has very high standards. Does not take one cent from government and can't be controlled by government.

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        2. YellowRichter‏ @YellowRichter Oct 20
          Replying to @charlesmurray @Shrillbilly

          My impression is that schools like Chicago or Johns Hopkins, or tech giants like MIT and Cal Tech, are still strong and largely avoid the entitled students, while some of those state schools have departments that are every bit as Orwellian as the Ivies.

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        3. Shrillbilly‏ @Shrillbilly Oct 20
          Replying to @YellowRichter @charlesmurray

          Stick to the hard sciences/engineering to be safe, as I suspect that the social science and lib arts depts at most all higher ed schools are overrun with narrow-minded, ideologically-blinkered, Puritans-of-the-Left. Danger! Danger Will Robinson!

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        2. Chachi'); DROP TABLE Users;‏ @SomeCorporation Oct 20
          Replying to @charlesmurray

          Elite universities (at the undergrad level) confer more marginal gains in prestige and connections than in academic skill sets. It’s possible that upon reflection this still makes elite colleges the better long-term choice.

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        3. C‏ @cenbai Oct 20
          Replying to @SomeCorporation @charlesmurray

          Except their brains get fried in the process... time for a different approach to post secondary. In addition to poisonous ideology, the costs in the US are ridiculous. It’s a complete scam.

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        2. Ronna McNamara‏ @RonnaMcnamara Oct 20
          Replying to @charlesmurray

          Agreed! We are in the process of looking with my daughter (109% Chinese) and are facusing on liberal arts schools in Midwest and lesser known New England. Steering far from ivies etc.

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        3. Robert Wright III‏ @rjwthree Oct 20
          Replying to @RonnaMcnamara @charlesmurray

          As someone who’s attending an Ivy, I recommend considering them. I understand what you’re worried about, but I also can assure you that the issue is often exaggerated based on sampling bias. If she has the qualifications, applying would be a great decision (esp. to Dartmouth!)

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        4. Ronna McNamara‏ @RonnaMcnamara Oct 20
          Replying to @rjwthree @charlesmurray

          She has the qualifications but for a variety of reasons I really don’t think she’d be happy in an Ivy or similar small school like Wliiams or Amherst.

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        5. Robert Wright III‏ @rjwthree Oct 20
          Replying to @RonnaMcnamara @charlesmurray

          Okay, but perhaps suggest to her that she look into them. I think it would be a serious mistake to dismiss them out of hand.

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        2. AivazovskyRespecter‏ @shaolin_acc Oct 20
          Replying to @charlesmurray

          you underestimate a middling state school's ability to deliver frighteningly subpar educations. yes, they lack the qualities you're trying to avoid, but woah boy do they pile on their own misery

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        3.  🇲🇴NeverName 🇲🇴‏ @BeyondForever12 Oct 20
          Replying to @shaolin_acc @charlesmurray

          A lot of research schools in the midwest are fantastic, I guess it just depends on what topic you are trying to study really.

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        4. AivazovskyRespecter‏ @shaolin_acc Oct 20
          Replying to @BeyondForever12 @charlesmurray

          this always applies to some degree: departments are the granularity you want to target, but they're still contingent on the broader system's bureaucracy.

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