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Husband, father, social scientist, writer, Madisonian. Or maybe right-wing ideologue, pseudoscientist, evil. Opinions differ.

Burkittsville, MD
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    Charles Murray‏ @charlesmurray Oct 20

    Re Harvard admissions, a personal vignette. When my eldest daughter applied to Harvard in 1987, I urged her not to reveal that she was half-Asian. That wasn't my political views speaking. It was a Dad who knew it really would hurt his girl's chances. She ignored me, of course.

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      2. Patrick J. King‏ @acorn_pat Oct 20
        Replying to @charlesmurray

        Doesn't this contradict you're entire thesis in The Bell Curve? If society is stratifying by IQ, and Asians have a higher IQ on average, how could you have possibly thought revealing her heritage would be detrimental?

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Charles Murray‏ @charlesmurray Oct 20
        Replying to @acorn_pat

        Patrick, it's not complicated. Harvard is now on trial for discriminating against Asian applicants. I already knew they were doing that back in 1987. So I advised my daughter, half-Asian, not to put herself into an applicant pool where she would have an extra hurdle to cross. OK?

        1 reply 1 retweet 20 likes
      4. Patrick J. King‏ @acorn_pat Oct 20
        Replying to @charlesmurray

        How did you come to know this?

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      5. RealSoccerFC‏ @MaureenONeill_ Oct 20
        Replying to @acorn_pat @charlesmurray

        It’s been known for a long time. There are people paid to advise parents on how to get into elite schools. They’ve told Asians how it works

        0 replies 1 retweet 5 likes
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      2. Clark H‏ @Clarksterh Oct 20
        Replying to @charlesmurray

        So far no smoking gun treat ‘Asian’ diff than ‘white’. But as u prob know, ‘personal score’ includes things like extroversion & uniqueness that *many* pro-plaintiff articles, ironically, acknowledge as group characteristics. 1/n

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      3. Clark H‏ @Clarksterh Oct 20
        Replying to @Clarksterh @charlesmurray

        Eg recent Quillette article talked abt Asians ‘need to stop being reserved’ (ie not extroverted (extroversion is a clear Harvard desire)). Also note that a recent study in Silicon Valley also points to *very* significant under-rep of ‘Asians’ in mgt. 2/n

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Clark H‏ @Clarksterh Oct 20
        Replying to @Clarksterh @charlesmurray

        But interestingly, when u break up ‘Asian’ into two categories, E Asian and S Asian, there are many managers of the latter group (eg GOOG and MSFT CEOs, and look in companies’ lists of senior mgt) - despite being demographically a much smaller group. 3/n

        4 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      5. Clark H‏ @Clarksterh Oct 20
        Replying to @Clarksterh @charlesmurray

        In a quick glance through other senior leadership positions in US (US Governors, CEOs at major public companies), something similar happening everywhere?Harvard problem may not be unique to Ivies. n/n

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      6. Kevin Gutzman‏ @KevinGutzman Oct 20
        Replying to @Clarksterh @charlesmurray

        Surprise! Underrepresentation in elite certification institutions is tied to underrepresentation in the top tiers in industry. Who would have guessed?

        1 reply 1 retweet 6 likes
      7. Clark H‏ @Clarksterh Oct 20
        Replying to @KevinGutzman @charlesmurray

        FWIW my general thesis is that as exogenous influences (overarching racism) lessen, then endogenous group differences (regardless of origins - including subculture) will, as a mathematical necessity, become more apparent. 1/s

        1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
      8. Clark H‏ @Clarksterh Oct 20
        Replying to @Clarksterh @KevinGutzman @charlesmurray

        There is now pretty good evidence for this in gender differences in more egalitarian societies. But it will appear elsewhere and it has large ramifications - eg how we measure, detect and stamp out remaining racism. 2/s

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      9. Clark H‏ @Clarksterh Oct 20
        Replying to @Clarksterh @KevinGutzman @charlesmurray

        One big issue going to be groups want to see the metrics at which they are best as the most important. Eg there was an amusing article in Ms Magazine abt fact that men do better on high end of SAT (larger variance effect?), but women better GPA. So GPA shld count more? s/s

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      2. LSMom‏ @LSmom9 Oct 20
        Replying to @charlesmurray

        It would be interesting to see what would happen if applicants were just assigned a number - no name, no demographic info included on the application, just test scores, grades, extracurricular activities and a writing sample. Has a study like this ever been done?

        1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      3. Rendall‏ @rendall Oct 20
        Replying to @LSmom9 @charlesmurray

        Rendall Retweeted Timofey Pnin

        Yes.https://twitter.com/pnin1957/status/1051799180069531648 …

        Rendall added,

        Timofey Pnin @pnin1957
        If Harvard admitted students based solely on the applicant scoring in the top decile of an "academic index" (=test scores + HS performance), the racial/ethnic composition of its freshman class would be expected to change as follows: White -6% Black -94% Hispanic -82% Asian +108% pic.twitter.com/goSlpHpRaf
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      2. Fauxmaha‏ @J3ffMiller Oct 20
        Replying to @charlesmurray

        In 2018, just list yourself as a member of whatever group will bring you the greatest admission preference. If confronted, say that is how you 'identify'. Or say it is 'family lore'. Men should also claim female identity. These are Harvard's rules. Use them to your advantage.

        2 replies 0 retweets 15 likes
      3. Gary Jones‏ @GaryNotHairy Oct 20
        Replying to @J3ffMiller @charlesmurray

        All you need is between 1/64 and 1/1024 to identify with a minority group to further your career, as the senator from MA has proven.

        0 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      4. End of conversation
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      2. Michael Lehman‏ @MichaelLehman17 Oct 20
        Replying to @charlesmurray

        It befuddles me why people place so much stock in elite “name” schools. Smart people who work hard will succeed no matter the school

        5 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      3. Kevin Gutzman‏ @KevinGutzman Oct 20
        Replying to @MichaelLehman17 @charlesmurray

        False: the leg up provided by elite certification is a huge advantage, though the schools be overrated as schools. People don't struggle for admission to Stanford in hopes of learning more than they would at UCLA.

        0 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
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      1. A. Norman‏ @AFIChai Oct 20
        Replying to @charlesmurray

        As good an explanation as I've seen for why admins push for less qualified but "diverse" students. https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/ivy-covered-dystopia/ …pic.twitter.com/m5BV5DXLd0

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