After listening to @SamHarrisOrg’s chat with @charlesmurray on the #wakingup #podcast and 268 pages I’ve finally got to it #thebellcurvepic.twitter.com/kDtfyXEb42
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Let's assume the test results are completely valid and unbiased. That does nothing for your genetic argument, especially if your race categories are social constructs and not genetic ones. Kinda pushes the data toward a cultural conclusion...pic.twitter.com/C2JMLQd4s1
Race is both a social construct and biological reality per Spencer's argument: http://sci-hub.tw/10.1086/677694 According to Hardimon, race is either biologically real (https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2018/06/22/the-existence-and-reality-of-populationist-races/ … https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2018/04/17/a-simple-argument-for-the-existence-of-race/ …) or socially constructed (https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2018/07/15/the-concepts-of-racialist-race-and-socialrace/ …).
Okay, couple things here.
First, African-American and the US version of Caucasian or White, are not valid genetic categories.
Second, even if they were, Murray has no way of knowing if those who self-identified actually fall into these categories.
#DataProblems
@SamHarrisOrg wants to present the test data as irrefutable evidence of the genetic explanation for the difference between white/black IQ test scores in the US.
He wants to present Murray as a scientist who uncovered an unfortunate fact and is being unfairly pilloried for it.pic.twitter.com/gBUrlwdtHb
The truth is Murray has been a lifelongwell-paid stalwart in right-wing think tanks and has presented the idea of doing away with the entire social net as far back as the 80s. He's never been a friend to the impoverished minorities.
It might be different if a neutral scientist had come in and interpreted the data in this way. But Murray is so far from a neutral scientist. How did Sam Harris get so tied up in this?
There is hardly anything you write that's worth wasting time reading. The tests are biased, they are constructed to be so. End of story.
Well Dr Murray? What page do you discuss test bias?
Why not link the papers that supposedly end the bias argument? So we can look at the hard data.
I just want the page number so I can assess the argument.
My memory is foggy. Chapter, page number and section?
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