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Charles Murray

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Husband, father, social scientist, writer, Madisonian. Or maybe right-wing ideologue, pseudoscientist, evil. Opinions differ.

Burkittsville, MD
aei.org/scholar/charle…
Joined February 2009

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    Charles Murray‏ @charlesmurray Sep 19

    Charles Murray Retweeted David Bond

    You can tell from just the first page: Hysterical pseudoscience.https://twitter.com/drdavebond/status/1042224442821173248 …

    Charles Murray added,

    David Bond @drdavebond
    After listening to @SamHarrisOrg’s chat with @charlesmurray on the #wakingup #podcast and 268 pages I’ve finally got to it #thebellcurve pic.twitter.com/kDtfyXEb42
    5:20 AM - 19 Sep 2018
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    12 replies 20 retweets 111 likes
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      2. IlIIlIIIIlI‏ @IlIIlIIIIlI Sep 19
        Replying to @charlesmurray

        To be fair, you didn't give a hell lot of references on that page.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Charles Murray‏ @charlesmurray Sep 19
        Replying to @IlIIlIIIIlI

        There’s an italicized summary at the beginning of each chapter. No refs in summaries.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. IlIIlIIIIlI‏ @IlIIlIIIIlI Sep 19
        Replying to @charlesmurray

        Fair enough! And good writing style! : )

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. End of conversation
      1. New conversation
      2. RaceRealist‏ @Race__Realist Sep 19
        Replying to @charlesmurray

        IQ isn't science.

        2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      3. Dave‏ @dbvl53 Sep 19
        Replying to @Race__Realist @charlesmurray

        Did you notice yet, that saying it isn't science does not mean is becomes not science?

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. RaceRealist‏ @Race__Realist Sep 19
        Replying to @dbvl53 @charlesmurray

        IQ tests aren't construct valid. They're not a valid scientific instrument. That is, they don't test what they purport to. Even a little bit.

        3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Apollo‏ @Janusianite Sep 19
        Replying to @Race__Realist @dbvl53 @charlesmurray

        Would love to find a better sociological predictor, but I bet we will be looking for a while

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      6. RaceRealist‏ @Race__Realist Sep 19
        Replying to @Janusianite @dbvl53 @charlesmurray

        It "predicts" due to test construction. IQ tests and achievement tests are different versions of the same test.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Apollo‏ @Janusianite Sep 19
        Replying to @Race__Realist @dbvl53 @charlesmurray

        Why does IQ correlate so well to other sociological metrics? Health outcomes, wealth level, etc..

        3 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      8. RaceRealist‏ @Race__Realist Sep 19
        Replying to @Janusianite @dbvl53 @charlesmurray

        Test construction. Excising items that don't fit what the constructors want. So it necessarily correlates with social class. IQ test scores are, in actuality, middle class knowledge scores.

        3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      9. C‏ @cenbai Sep 19
        Replying to @Race__Realist @Janusianite and

        You make no sense. IQ data is the strongest data set that exists, across all societies. It is nothing to do with “the middle class” - typical American naval gazing.

        3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. David Bond‏ @drdavebond Sep 19
        Replying to @charlesmurray

        It’s hard to understand why you copped so much heat over it (and even before social media and our 140 character attention span). You both were done a major disservice.

        1 reply 1 retweet 9 likes
      3. Anti Racism‏ @anti_racism101 Sep 19
        Replying to @drdavebond @charlesmurray

        Maybe because to talk about cognitive ability between racial groups and leave out the 500yr negative impact from #whitesupremacy on black people is suspected #whitesupremacist behavior. 🤔👌

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      4. X Belief‏ @x_belief Sep 19
        Replying to @anti_racism101 @drdavebond @charlesmurray

        #whitesupremacy therefor TBC lead with this line:pic.twitter.com/Q84YTYKbIF

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Anti Racism‏ @anti_racism101 Sep 19
        Replying to @x_belief @drdavebond @charlesmurray

        Where does that mention #WhiteSupremacy

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. X Belief‏ @x_belief Sep 19
        Replying to @anti_racism101 @drdavebond @charlesmurray

        Exactly.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Anti Racism‏ @anti_racism101 Sep 19
        Replying to @x_belief @drdavebond @charlesmurray

        Apartheid, Jim Crow, convict leases, etc etc.. blacks killed for reading, imprisoned for practicing their own religions, the Berlin conference etc.. no black hired til every white man has a job... this is verifiable period of who the PRIMARY target of #whitesupremacy is sir.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. X Belief‏ @x_belief Sep 19
        Replying to @anti_racism101 @drdavebond @charlesmurray

        LOL, You need to get out more. Bubble that is.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. Anti Racism‏ @anti_racism101 Sep 19
        Replying to @x_belief @drdavebond @charlesmurray

        None of those verifiable behaviors negatively affect black life outcomes? I want an intellectual response to my valid question… This is the high IQ thread...#WhiteSupremacy

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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      1. MinamtheDwarf‏ @MinamtheD Sep 19
        Replying to @charlesmurray

        I recommend people actually <gasp> read the book for a number of years now. It makes a big difference if you read it. Alas, few will take my advice. Demagoguery is more fun.

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