"X is just Y phrased differently!" Yeah, and? People vary. How you understand things is not universal.
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Replying to @drethelin @literalbanana
people don't object to rephrasings presented as rephrasings, they object to rephrasings presented as novel insights
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Replying to @VesselOfSpirit @drethelin
both reading and citing every *potentially* isomorphic thing seems like a huge burden on both author and reader
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Replying to @literalbanana @drethelin
i don't think that's required for correct presentation of novelty-epistemic status
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nobody gets mad at people for rediscovering (rephrasings of) obscure old ideas
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isn't it usually a dominance game though "oh, you're so cute, thinking you thought of a thing, when what you thought of is a version of this thing that a very important dude thought and which i read about during my very expensive education"
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Replying to @chaosprime @VesselOfSpirit and
I like the idea that if you come up with X, which could also be Y, but Y has a lot more history and other work about it, then you're doing inventor-of-X a favor by showing them Y. They can read about Y instead and build on their idea.
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this is for sure the good-alignment version yeah
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Replying to @chaosprime @VesselOfSpirit and
One might say that the magic of philosophy is compressing ideas you already had. See the preface to Wittgenstein's "Tractatus": "This book will perhaps only be understood by those who have themselves already thought the thoughts which are expressed in it—or similar thoughts."
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